Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
6/29/09 8:23 a.m.

CL ad....guys house is being forclosed

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bar/1244768803.html

The house is being foreclosed upon this week.. Let me know what you need, make an offer. MAKE AN OFFER, please don't ask what I am looking for. Cash always speaks loudest - no guns. Water Heater. Furnace. Electric stove. Wall mount space heater. Bathroom Vanity (small, one sink, 2 drawer, 1 cabinet) - medicine cabinet. Garage door opener Chain link fence Very Large shed YOU MUST MOVE, if possible, its large. All great condition - contact me about anything else you may need and for more information. Everything is negotiable, for the right deal delivery is also a possibility.

Come on.......the bank is gonna notice

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
6/29/09 10:58 a.m.

What a tool. He failed to pay, now the bank has to sell a gutted house, driving down values...

Joey

Josh
Josh HalfDork
6/29/09 11:08 a.m.

To be fair, these items may have been improvements that the owner made during the time he lived in the house that were not part of the original loan. Still not saying it's the right thing to do.

bludroptop
bludroptop Dork
6/29/09 12:13 p.m.
Josh wrote: To be fair, these items may have been improvements that the owner made during the time he lived in the house that were not part of the original loan.

Doesn't matter. If you look at the deed to your house, it describes a piece of property (unless it is a condo or similar). The collateral for your mortgage is that property "and all improvements thereon". The only things that you can legitimately take are those items that are not attached in any way, furniture and personal items.

I'm not an expert in the law, but I suspect this is criminal activity, and the buyers of these items would be knowingly receiving stolen property.

Some of this is out of desparation, but most of the time it is "revenge" against the lender. It is like trashing a car just before reposession - somehow they seem justified in blaming the lender because they couldn't make the payments they agreed to.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn Dork
6/29/09 12:21 p.m.

Some people who own a house up the street from me tried this a few weeks ago. They tried to sell off all the house's architectural parts in an 'estate sale.' However, it's an arts and crafts era mansion with some pretty valuable parts. The bank holding the mortage wasn't amused when they found out. From the newspaper article:

The leaded stained glass front door still had the price on it -- $2,500. So did the fireplace surrounding in the study, $9,000. "Sold" signs dotted rich paneling and ornate woodwork around the walls, and the delicate four-panel painting on terra cotta above the fireplace, worth perhaps $150,000, was wrapped in cardboard, ready for delivery.

But the exquisite estate sale over the weekend at 2008 Pillsbury had a bizarre windup Tuesday.

Workers hired by the bank that holds the mortgage were busy changing the locks on the 1906 mansion Tuesday afternoon to protect what remains of a piece of the city's history. Their work was punctuated by the squawks of a parrot the owners left behind in the basement.

TCF sent investigators to the home after calls from a neighbor and the Star Tribune. Owners Peter Sturm and Kendahl Sweet have two mortgages on the house that total about $500,000, according to public records. They recently moved and couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

TCF spokesman Jason Korstange said privacy issues prevented him from discussing the matter in depth, except to say that "we own this house and we will be watching this closely."

Some neighbors have already been on the case.

When Piccadilly Estate and Moving put up banners for a large sale, few thought much of it. But when neighbors saw sale signs on items structural to the house, rumors spread on a Minneapolis issues forum, and preservationists began making calls, including ones to the newspaper.

By Tuesday, one neighbor, who asked not to be named, walked through the empty home and turned to the locksmith who was preparing to change the locks.

"Luckily, you got here in time," the neighbor said.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury HalfDork
6/29/09 12:34 p.m.

^nice, glad they caught it in time...in general, people suck!!

Present company excluded

jamscal
jamscal HalfDork
6/29/09 2:08 p.m.

I agree that it's tacky and illegal but ...

What if you were to 'improve' your house by replacing that old stained glass front door with a nice new one of stained luan?

And those nifty new Amish fireplaces are probably more efficient than a 100 year old fireplace and mantel as well.

etc. etc.

-James

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
6/29/09 2:57 p.m.

I read one time in a book about the foreclosure biz that "If homeowners spent half the energy trying to pay their mortgage that they spent on trashing the house right before foreclosure, they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with." Or something to that effect.

From my first-hand experience (I've bought a few houses off the courthouse steps), it's spot-on.

Clem

Jake
Jake HalfDork
6/29/09 3:29 p.m.

I bought a foreclosure 3 years ago. Fannie Mae sprayed the entire interior in builder-white and painted the trim, then threw in new carpet. I looked at it after the paint was up, but before carpet, and it was pretty clear that whoever left the place didn't try too hard to make sure it was well kept. Ahem. We have wondered over the years if the kermit-green trim paint that is under the normal white paint was a conscious choice aimed at making more work for the bank, or if the people just had bad taste.

We looked at another foreclosure thinking to maybe buy, and it was WRECKED. Holes in all the drain traps, doors busted off the hinges, holes in all the drywall, window screens all cut, water damage all over, etc. I understand that people get mad when the "big evil bank" comes to kick them out of their home, but it's not the bank's fault. :|

TucoRamirez
TucoRamirez New Reader
6/29/09 5:18 p.m.

Over the past 20 years I've seen blight spread from the hood to the working class burbs and now into the upper class burbs as in OMG the expensive crap boutique chain closed. I wonder if more of our cities are headed for a Detroit/Baltimore/New Orleans style make over, except riots and natural disasters won't necessarily be needed to get things going.

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