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bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/15 1:26 p.m.
Enyar wrote: Scary part is these people reproduce and vote....YIKES!

Reproduce yes, vote....probably not, too lazy.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
10/26/15 1:30 p.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote: In reply to Spinout007: I know how this goes, took one German shepherd in a decade ago as a stray, parents took in a proverbial xmas puppy GSD 4 years ago, and I took in a 3yo GSD last year because the guy's new wife refused to live in the same house as the dog. Some people just don't understand commitment nor deserve the loyalty animals provide.

that would probably be enough for me to sit back and re-evaluate my choice of a mate

KyAllroad
KyAllroad SuperDork
10/26/15 1:34 p.m.
bgkast wrote:
Enyar wrote: Scary part is these people reproduce and vote....YIKES!
Reproduce yes, vote....probably not, too lazy.

I see a plot for a book here where a veterinarian, fed up with the state of humanity, starts neutering the owners of these abused animals. I know the temptation is real.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/15 1:41 p.m.
KyAllroad wrote:
bgkast wrote:
Enyar wrote: Scary part is these people reproduce and vote....YIKES!
Reproduce yes, vote....probably not, too lazy.
I see a plot for a book here where a veterinarian, fed up with the state of humanity, starts neutering the owners of these abused animals. I know the temptation is real.

Sounds like history; there was a group that went around castrating males if they thought they were "special"

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
10/26/15 1:45 p.m.

I had a friend here in Daytona who had a big- goofy, lovable Rottweiler. He started dating a girl who didn't like dogs, or didn't like HIS dog, or something. Soon the dog was being watched by another friend---- the owner never stopped by, didn't pay for food....nothing.

Soon the friend (who didn't want, and couldn't take a dog) had to give him up to the shelter, so off the pooch went. It made me sick, as I knew the pup, but I wasn't in a place where I could take on another huge animal.

This basically ended our friendship. I just couldn't respect or trust a guy who would abandon an animal like that---- he also took advantage of the guy who was watching his dog--- which also showed his true stripes.

I don't understand how people can turn their backs on loyal, devoted animals. It speaks to a serious flaw in their character.

Kia_Racer
Kia_Racer Dork
10/26/15 2:32 p.m.

I live out in the boonies so far I have to import sticks. We have three dogs, two cats. The last one to show up waS left in our yard (two acres). We tried to find the owner, no luck. Gave him to a guy down the road, about a mile or so, he kept coming back. Now he is mine.

People just drop off their dogs all over the area. I just don't understand. There are probably 6 or 7 left out here a year.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/15 2:56 p.m.

Reminds me of the cat that came with the house many years ago. A nice all-white female named Mouse, didn't get along well with Patches though. The cat actually showed up as we were moving in, it had trekked many miles through built-up areas, across roads and highways from where the people who sold the house live back to here. The distance it was walking was about a 25 minute drive and there was a great big hill in the way

So we returned the cat back to its owners. Sometimes the cat would show up and stay for a little while and walk all the way back on its own. Eventually it seemed that the owners wanted us to keep the cat but we couldn't have Mouse and Patches getting into great big fights all the time so we kept trying to return her. One time when returning her the owners said that if she kept causing this trouble they might just have her put down she didn't come back after that...

ncjay
ncjay Dork
10/26/15 3:09 p.m.

I am all for legislation requiring some people to be spayed or neutered. That's a cause I can get behind.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/15 3:27 p.m.

Redacted as to not lock my own thread....

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
10/26/15 4:01 p.m.
wbjones wrote:
WOW Really Paul? wrote: In reply to Spinout007: I know how this goes, took one German shepherd in a decade ago as a stray, parents took in a proverbial xmas puppy GSD 4 years ago, and I took in a 3yo GSD last year because the guy's new wife refused to live in the same house as the dog. Some people just don't understand commitment nor deserve the loyalty animals provide.
that would probably be enough for me to sit back and re-evaluate my choice of a mate

Well, he is an alpha. It took roughly 10 months before he submitted to me being the alpha and not him....that happened last February when he ran off and spent 36hrs in the cold/rain/snow. Since then, he actually listens to me and has become quite an affectionate dog.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/15 4:24 p.m.

In reply to WOW Really Paul?:

It's funny when they make that turn isn't it? SWMBO had a Rat Terrier when we got together that I had to have a "come to jesus" talk with. (I'm not proud of that moment, but I about lost it when he bit me in the face.)

Pushrod
Pushrod New Reader
10/27/15 2:00 a.m.

Just glad that he found someone like you....Good 'un, mate.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/27/15 11:06 a.m.

I want to inject some counterpoint to this thread, just because it is such a downer.

I was out fishing on a very hot day at a large lake near my house and I saw an elderly dog struggling to walk down a crushed rock retaining wall. It made it and started to slurp up water like it had never seen it before. The dog then spent a bit of time visiting with a few people and when it came over to us, I noticed it had one of the invisible fence collars on and it's foot pads were very tender.

Since nobody seemed to own the dog in the area, I checked its tags and saw that it lived about 3 miles away. I called the number and got an answering machine, but left a message advising them that their dog was at the lake. I told them I'd keep the dog occupied for a while if they got the message, and did so while my son tried to catch fish, played in the sand, chased bugs and otherwise enjoyed our time at the lake.

A couple hours passed, and I didn't get a return call and nobody showed up. I debated driving the dog back to the house or taking it home, but I had a small car with a baby seat in the back and didn't want to take a strange dog into the car with my young son, and we had something to do that night, so I had to leave it at the lake. I called animal control and advised them the dog was there, and called the owner's number back and advised them I had called the county animal control and they were on the way to get the dog.

About an hour later I got a call from the owners. They were out of town at a family wedding, and had their neighbor watching the dog. Apparently the neighbor let the dog out into the yard to do its business, but unknown to everybody during the excitement leading up to the wedding, the batteries had died on the collar and the dog had slipped away and apparently went to the spot where it expected to find its owners since they took it there often. The neighbor was able to go to the lake and get the dog and bring it home. I was the ONLY one who called them, even though there were dozens of people around and the contact information was on the dog's ID.

Not everybody is a jerk, but sometimes even the best owners slip up.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/27/15 11:46 a.m.

Thought I would throw these up here. First up is his Daughter

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As one member told me, "I thought she was all muscle and well built till I saw her dad."

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Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/27/15 11:49 a.m.

I got to my parents place last night to pick up my dogs. They had talked to the neighbor that wanted him, and let him take the dog home. I was kind of bummed as I hadn't gotten to take a picture of him. When I dropped my old man this morning with mom and dad, guess who was sitting on the porch??? Yeah, I think he's made up his mind of where he wants to be.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/27/15 12:14 p.m.

In reply to Spinout007:

I figured there was no way that he'd end up any other place but there :) he chose them and he also appears to be loyal to his mate and is likely happy to be with his chosen people and dog family.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/27/15 1:37 p.m.

In reply to Brett_Murphy:

Indeed, My husky used to go on "walk about" or "run about" as we called it with her. I always knew when someone decided to let her in their house or, keep her in a fence. She would disappear for more than a few hours. Without fail, when I got tired of waiting on her and went looking she would show up in the yard while I was gone. I half thought she would lay just outside the yard in the woods and wait for me to leave so she could be sitting on the porch when I got home.

When someone would decide to pick her up, or "take care of her till they found her owner" (they were going to keep her on at least one occasion) till they learned what it means to have a husky around the house. I literally brought the tractor over to one guys yard because he had a 6' fence she couldn't figure out how to jump over, so she kept herself busy by digging. I leveled his yard back out for him, as it looked like the surface of the moon in one day while he was at work. He conveniently called the number on her collar that evening.

Anyway, they can get away, they DO get away. All 7 of mine are chipped. They're trained to stay in their yard, though it doesn't always work(they know where Grandma's house is on the other side of the property). I've taken them around to all the neighbors and introduced them. Taught them to ignore Chickens because the neighbors have a decent sized flock. Though the neighbors don't mind the Rat Terriers going over and raiding their barns, as they usually bring a few mice/rats out with them when I show up to claim them. The point is, we still get trips to the vet due to something unforeseen. And OCCASIONALLY a trip to the county animal control shelter. Though that place breaks my heart so I do everything in my power to stay out of there.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/27/15 4:14 p.m.

Neighbor behind them offered to take the dog.

This is a pretty relevant line in the OP. If a neighbor has taken responsibility for the dog, then, as far as I'm concerned, the original owners are off the hook.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/27/15 4:16 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01:

Depends on whether the offer was accepted or not.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/27/15 4:23 p.m.

In reply to Duke:

True, but the dog was returned to the neighbors later in the thread and ran away again. It sounds like the transfer of ownership happened, but the dog is confused where "home" is.

I have a hard time being pissed at the original owners. They appear to have made a good faith effort to see to the well-being of the animal.

NY535iManual
NY535iManual Reader
10/27/15 5:21 p.m.

Reading these stories makes me feel a few different things:

First, pretty pissed off at people being so callous and heartless in how they treat "pets." Every animal we've ever had has been considered almost family. Imagine how these people treat their human relatives.

Then I feel sorry for people that suck so bad, at how miserable their lives must be.

Then I feel pretty bad/sad about the pets that never get the chance to be rescued by GOOD people.

Finally, I feel pretty good that so many folks on here seem to feel just has pissed as I do, and that they will go out of their way to help an animal in need.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/28/15 7:08 a.m.
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to Duke: True, but the dog was returned to the neighbors later in the thread and ran away again. It sounds like the transfer of ownership happened, but the dog is confused where "home" is. I have a hard time being pissed at the original owners. They appear to have made a good faith effort to see to the well-being of the animal.

It's more the point of you've got a senior animal, and because you no longer want to deal with it, you pass it off to someone else. It seriously rub's me the wrong way.

If we didn't have our dogs, I wouldn't be living 750 miles away from my wife right now. A few have mentioned to me to get rid of the dogs, to which it has taken a large chunk of self control to not blow my top and tell them to go berk themselves. My YOUNGEST is 9 (or so we think, she may be older, it was just the estimate the vet gave us when we rescued her plus the 7 years we've had her) Most of them are 11+ years old. The oldest is probably on his way out, as he doesn't seem to know where he is all the time, and has issues with bladder control, but for a mutt who's 15, and his daddy only made it to 6 due to liver and kidney failure. I think he's had a good run. He still plays with the others outside, he just now needs someone to be home with him all the time. Luckily my mom is home 90% of the time, therefore he gets to go visit Grandma every day. Is it a pain? HELL YES! My commute has gone from 20 min to now 40-45min, not to mention half the time I don't get home till late as hell now. (mom and dad like to talk) But he's a heck of a lot happier, and I don't have to give him a bath daily or scrub his kennel nightly.

As for our guest, he didn't show back up last night, as his new "owner" came and got him again yesterday. So I'm wondering if he actually let him sleep inside last night or if he's got him chained up.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
10/28/15 12:29 p.m.

probably chained up … hate to see those ..

if he was the type to let the dog in at night, I'm betting he would have already done so long before this

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