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Duke
Duke PowerDork
11/5/12 10:54 a.m.
dculberson wrote: Commenting on bad behavior is not equivalent to engaging in bad behavior. I'm afraid that Alfadriver has a good point.

So, us commenting on the mother's bad behaviour that resulted in the death of her child != bad behaviour that results in the death of a child.

Thanks for making that point for us.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof UberDork
11/5/12 11:11 a.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

There's a difference between judgement and fact.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
11/5/12 11:15 a.m.

Oh, for Pete's sake.

People are stupid, some more than others. People are judgmental, some more than others.

Next topic.

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
11/5/12 11:15 a.m.

In reply to Zomby Woof:

The fact is that a mother something that killed her son. Are we really so PC that it's unacceptable to comment negatively on that?

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
11/5/12 11:17 a.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: Oh, for Pete's sake. People are stupid, some more than others. People are judgmental, some more than others. Next topic.

You forgot contrary. Some people feel a need to be contrary more than others.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof UberDork
11/5/12 11:22 a.m.

That was in reply to your previous comment

bravenrace wrote: Not if the observation in itself is judgemental, which in this case it was.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
11/5/12 11:23 a.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: Oh, for Pete's sake. Next topic.

berkeley Pete. He should be imprisoned for irresponsibly forcing his sake on us.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 Dork
11/5/12 11:25 a.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Why did they have to kill the dog?

From what I've seen/heard, one dog wouldn't stop mauling the kid so it was shot. The others backed off when called and most went back to a enclosure.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
11/5/12 11:31 a.m.
wlkelley3 wrote: From what I've seen/heard, one dog wouldn't stop mauling the kid so it was shot.

Man... human kids must be delicious. I mean... to risk being shot to finish eating one is some serious berkeleying commitment.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
11/5/12 11:35 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
Zomby Woof wrote: In reply to bravenrace: There is a difference between observation and judgement.
Am I the only one here who is more observing the judgemental nature of this board?
Observation
Interesting that so many of you need to add into someone else's issues like that.
(disguised) Judgement Thanks for pointing that out.

Yes, I am being judgemental. But only noting, and not advocating doing something about behaivor.

But I'm not advocating that your computer rights be taken away due to my judgement. Or that we should incease sociatal dangers to eliminate some of your judgements.

Just that its interesting to see how many people here want to be judge, jury, and executioner in events like this.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
11/5/12 11:38 a.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Zomby Woof: The fact is that a mother something that killed her son. Are we really so PC that it's unacceptable to comment negatively on that?

Who's being PC?

I'm just pointing out "throwing stones" and all.

It would be one thing if the post was something about the tragedy of a poor choice costing a child his life as well as the dogs. To then wish more judgement against the mom... well, interesting.

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
11/5/12 11:38 a.m.

Report from Pgh.

http://www.wpxi.com/videos/news/child-2-killed-after-falling-into-african-painted/vg2KR/

(Monday 11/5 ) News conference live at 1:00 pm:

http://www.wpxi.com/

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
11/5/12 11:39 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

You are obviously not thinking about the boy.

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
11/5/12 11:40 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
wlkelley3 wrote: From what I've seen/heard, one dog wouldn't stop mauling the kid so it was shot.
Man... human kids must be delicious. I mean... to risk being shot to finish eating one is some serious berkeleying commitment.

It was the zoo's fault for not feeding the dogs human kids in the first place. Or, maybe it was the zoo's fault for feeding them E36M3 instead of what they really want.

There's plenty of blame to go around and I'd hate to see one party carry the burden more than another, but I've got a feeling the folks at the zoo are going to be made the real villains in an avoidable tragedy.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
11/5/12 11:47 a.m.
oldsaw wrote: I've got a feeling the folks at the zoo are going to be made the real villains in an avoidable tragedy.

Of course. Because we shouldn't judge the stupidity of the direct agent of this tragedy, but it's OK to judge the zoo management for underestimating the stupidity of those we aren't allowed to call stupid.

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
11/5/12 12:09 p.m.

live press conference 1 pm

http://www.wpxi.com/videos/news/wpxi-live-video/vFsx7/

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
11/5/12 12:37 p.m.

I think this thread is a new low.

Margie

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/12 12:38 p.m.
Marjorie Suddard wrote: I think this thread is a new low. Margie

Give it 36 hours, then all of the crazies should have dissipated.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
11/5/12 12:40 p.m.

Sorry Margie. I was really just lamenting the loss of the little boy and sad due to the unavoidable nature. I didn't mean to dig the rabbit hole and certainly hope I didn't chase anything down it.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
11/5/12 12:43 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
Marjorie Suddard wrote: I think this thread is a new low. Margie
Give it 36 hours, then all of the crazies *should* have dissipated.

It stopped being about anything related to the story after the first page. In 36 hours it will be petty arguing about election sour grapes or how the industrial age may have effected storm strength.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
11/5/12 12:43 p.m.

Hey, I understand. I've posted my share of threads that just went... wrong.

I just hope everyone relaxes a little once we're no longer being bombarded with all the negativity due to the election, and can start thinking more about important things like turkey vs. prime rib.

Margie

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
11/5/12 12:45 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

As long as you're not being judgemental of my judging and claiming it as observance.

(Yes, i know i made up my own language in that statement, but I almost enjoy that as much as judging people.)

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
11/5/12 12:50 p.m.

I posted a PGH news link and live press conference link to provide information and dissuade speculation. Sorry if I stepped in it. No personal comment from me.

dculberson
dculberson SuperDork
11/5/12 12:50 p.m.

My judging is observing your latent judgmental observance and finding it lacking any judgement whatsoever, which I've observed, and judged.

Say the same words enough times and they stop sounding like words. Judge.

p.s. Mostly I judge that I need to stop observing off-topic, too bad so many posts that I judge observance-worthy end up here. I wish there was a "car off-topic" and "non-car off-topic." That way I could judge which ones to observe more easily.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
11/5/12 12:52 p.m.
Marjorie Suddard wrote: Hey, I understand. I've posted my share of threads that just went... wrong. I just hope everyone relaxes a little once we're no longer being bombarded with all the negativity due to the election, and can start thinking more about important things like turkey vs. prime rib. Margie

Prime rib. Duh.

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