I agree I agree I agree. Except for that holocaust survivor. She wanted to get arrested, so mission accomplished. 
I agree I agree I agree. Except for that holocaust survivor. She wanted to get arrested, so mission accomplished.
N Sperlo wrote: I agree I agree I agree. Except for that holocaust survivor. She wanted to get arrested, so mission accomplished.
That woman "survived" the Holocaust because she lived the entire war in England and never set foot in an internment camp; sadly, many of her family died directly at the hands of the Nazis.
However, that makes her a "survivor" in the same way a child would be a rape victim if his/her mother was sexually assaulted.
In reply to oldsaw:
So, she survived the Blitz, not the Holocaust.....big difference there. Might need to have her checked for dementia....
Apparently the cop suffered fractured facial bones..... that's not some little kid hitting him there. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/169517-report-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-eye-socket/
Yea. Also the lead witness was charged once for filing a false police report. NOT convicted, but charged. Won't show well in court, but without a conviction, I may be wrong.
I hear the fracture was an "orbital blowout fracture". That term makes my tummy churn.
Bobzilla wrote: Apparently the cop suffered fractured facial bones..... that's not some little kid hitting him there. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/169517-report-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-eye-socket/
Yeah, saw this last night. Gotta say that if I'm punched hard enough to cause this kind of injury to my face I'm going to be shooting the puncher. A lot.
Gotta say that he's lucky to have still been standing/leaning at that point IMO. I'm sure with that kind of blow he was likely dealing with a concussion as well. Then to see a large hulk coming back for round 2.... I can't say I wouldn't have shot as well.
If the injury reports are acurate in addition to the autopsy then the pd really dropped the ball letting the news tell everyone that a cop shot a kid in the back for no reason. Of course their handling of everything the last few weeks reeks of incompetence anyway so it's no surprise.
In reply to Wally:
What was to stop the media from reporting what they were told.....they're not in the business of fact checking...
In reply to Bobzilla:
Yea, I doubt he could really see anyways....explains why it took that many shots and lack of center mass as well. I had a minor version of this from playing baseball as a kid.....I couldn't see straight for about 10-15min, and the adrenalin wore off about an hour later.
Wally wrote: If the injury reports are acurate in addition to the autopsy then the pd really dropped the ball letting the news tell everyone that a cop shot a kid in the back for no reason. Of course their handling of everything the last few weeks reeks of incompetence anyway so it's no surprise.
This. The entire squad seems to be run by a bunch of morons. So many things they've done wrong, and the media should be ashamed of what they have done as well.
yamaha wrote: In reply to Wally: What was to stop the media from reporting what they were told.....they're not in the business of fact checking...
LOL yeah pretty much, the media reports directly what theyre spoon fed without fact checking at all. Just look at the increase in storys that the media has to retract now days because of that
yamaha wrote: In reply to Wally: What was to stop the media from reporting what they were told.....they're not in the business of fact checking...
Whether the media ran with it or not is one thing but if I had facts that made my group look at all justified or at least sympathetic I would have maybe mentioned it somewhere.
In reply to Wally:
Well, I was told the local news called this about right prior to the national media hooplah and the race card being thrown.....
Its just the initial fallout from the race card throwing tends to drown out what really happened. Basically, these people want a lynching or they'll keep rioting/protesting......and many won't care what facts or evidence shows.
facts are totally overrated. Emotion sells.
This is funny stuff right here.
http://weaselzippers.us/197242-moonbat-white-guy-goes-to-ferguson-to-protest-police-shooting-promptly-beaten-up-and-robbed/
http://fox13now.com/2014/08/11/breaking-man-dead-after-officer-involved-shooting-in-s-salt-lake-police-say/
I think that if the police were held as accountable as citizens for when they are in the wrong, a lot of citizen unrest wouldn't happen. Unfortunately we all know of situations where the police were wrong, broke their own rules, etc and were not punished.
I think all police should have dash cams and personal cameras to record interactions with citizens. I believe at that point a lot of shenanigans would cease. This is one reason why Ferguson is over run with journalists now. There is no other way to verify behavior than to have video to refer to. It would do nothing but help the police in Ferguson if they had their own video's to refer to as well.
The non-SWAT police should not look or act like they think soldiers act. They don't need military vehicles of any sort nor military equipment. The officers in Ferguson showed they don't have the training or the discipline to be trusted with weaponry of that sort. The National Guard was called in. They should have the military equipment as they have the training and clear cut line of command for repercussions of misuse of that equipment and training. The police, in Ferguson, lacked this.
Any small government advocate and/or gun rights advocate should be scared to death of what has happened in Ferguson. It was obviously a dress rehearsal for what any police agency will do in the case of civilian unrest. As of now it's a black community of poor folks. It really could be any community of citizens. Where are the open carry advocates who are so afraid of "big government"? This is a prime example of what they're afraid of. The government taking over a neighborhood and stomping all over supposed inalienable constitutional rights. Isn't this why some folks arm themselves and advocate for gun ownership? To stop this type of power over reach? Why aren't they defending Ferguson from the same, I'm quoting gun's rights advocates now, "jack booted thugs" that attacked Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc?
Can the USA still call itself a bastion of freedom if it's police are free to ignore any rights the citizenry supposedly possess without repercussions?
In reply to Xceler8x:
There was a nugget (or two) of wisdom in that pile of agenda-squeeze.
In reply to Xceler8x:
Probably because most support the police more so than a degenerate?
The leo issue can be debated later, and it will be. However, for the time being.....the protests are fine, but they have to understand that as soon as members of their group are no longer peaceful, that what has happened can or will happen.
tuna55 wrote: http://fox13now.com/2014/08/11/breaking-man-dead-after-officer-involved-shooting-in-s-salt-lake-police-say/
Seriously read this. I am sure Jesse Jackson is on his way there now to aid race relations.
I support police body cameras, but maybe not for the reason most would think. It goes back to OJ Simpson's so-called 'defense' in which his 'dream team' attorneys twisted things so that the LAPD was on trial, not Simpson. Since then that has become an accepted tactic; busted for dope dealing? Claim the cops beat your ass and handled you roughly, those nasty ol' charges just magically melt away.
I saw where some outlet or other cites a 60% drop in police brutality where cameras are used. I am going to add a word which will make this statement true:
CLAIMS of police brutality dropped 60%. Can't get away with that crap any more.
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