1988RedT2 said:Grumpy old man says: Sure, this guy's dangerous to others and himself, but no more so than any hormone-saturated teenager that ever got behind the wheel, hopped up on goofballs and looking to set a land speed record every time he drives to the convenience store for more beer.
Grumpy millennial says that the old fart is more dangerous than the teen. Teen has far better eyesight and reaction time. And the old man is far more likely to be intoxicated and driving for more beer.
My memere never got her driver's license... Like, she just never had one. She had a neighbor, Hazel, who'd take memere (and us kids) grocery shopping once a week. She had a full sized 15 passenger Ford Van, and the back 3 benches were stacked to the ceiling with junk and crap (she was a flea market regular)... This worked pretty well up until Hazel got to 85. By then, her sight was getting bad, so memere would make me sit in the front seat and tell Hazel when to stop and go as she couldn't see the lights or signs anymore. Back then, it didn't feel super scary, but now I look back and am like... what the hell were we doing!? Haha.
Ultimately, she had an accident that totalled her van at 87, and the police took her license. I'd run her for groceries and she'd pay me $2 for my troubles, haha. She was a sweet old woman who live to 97, and still had every marble she was born with. Sharp as a whip, her.
1988RedT2 said:Grumpy old man says: Sure, this guy's dangerous to others and himself, but no more so than any hormone-saturated teenager that ever got behind the wheel, hopped up on goofballs and looking to set a land speed record every time he drives to the convenience store for more beer.
Nope, sorry, wrong answer.
Teenagers can be bad drivers, very true.
But a teenager may notice an impending issue and have the reaction time to avoid it.
The elderly folk serenely piloting their ocean liners through the sea of traffic as if they are the only ones on the road are never even going to notice the accident until it happens.
OP, try getting adult social services involved.
Duke said:The elderly folk serenely piloting their ocean liners through the sea of traffic as if they are the only ones on the road are never even going to notice the accident until it happens.
South Florida in a nutshell ... and they are all from NY.
@914Driver:
Maybe you need to find one of those "Del Boca Vista" brochures and drop it in his mailbox.
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
But impaired vision, cognition, and reaction time ain't gonna overcome anything.
Duke said:1988RedT2 said:Grumpy old man says: Sure, this guy's dangerous to others and himself, but no more so than any hormone-saturated teenager that ever got behind the wheel, hopped up on goofballs and looking to set a land speed record every time he drives to the convenience store for more beer.
Nope, sorry, wrong answer.
Teenagers can be bad drivers, very true.
But a teenager may notice an impending issue and have the reaction time to avoid it.
The elderly folk serenely piloting their ocean liners through the sea of traffic as if they are the only ones on the road are never even going to notice the accident until it happens.
It's always funny to hear young people use this bit of fantasy whenever this argument comes up. Problem is, it's not diminished senses like vision or hearing that are the primary cause of accidents. It's bad judgement.
But don't take my word for it. Let's look at the cost of insurance vs. age, shall we?
https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/average-car-insurance-rates-by-age-and-gender/
Drivers 55 to 60 have the lowest cost to insure. Rates do tick up a bit after age 65, but that is offset by the fact that old people drive less.
That said, there surely is an age when an old-timer with diminished facilities needs to put down the keys, but I'm tired of you young-uns with your arrogant heads up your diaper-swaddled behinds trying to assert that your wild asshattery actually makes the roads a safer place.
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