My 98 Neon R/T regularly saw mid to high 30s mpg. In fact, I'm not sure there's a non-hybrid car out there today that does as well.
My 98 Neon R/T regularly saw mid to high 30s mpg. In fact, I'm not sure there's a non-hybrid car out there today that does as well.
i went to the pull-a-part today. all the C4C cars for the most part with the exception of some really nice SUV's were typical rusty cleveland cars.
there was a sweet black 4x4 big block mid 90's suburban - that's the only one that had the potential to piss me off - moreso because someone got the fender flares before i did.
hotrodlarry wrote:andrave wrote: And can someone tell me how the hell the 1998 Neon qualified for CFC?If it has a bad O2 sensor or something like that, it kills the fuel mileage. The '97 that I bought over the summer got less then 20 mpg when I first drove it. I did a basic tune up and almost doubled the mpg. IIRC, the Neons got around 28-30 mpg brand new or close to those numbers, figure in 10 years of not so regular maintenance and there ya go.
They went by EPA rating. The dealers weren't testing actual mileage--just what was on the sticker when it was new.
Tim Baxter wrote: My 98 Neon R/T regularly saw mid to high 30s mpg. In fact, I'm not sure there's a non-hybrid car out there today that does as well.
My civic does about the same as the various neons that i've owned over the years. It's more impressive when you consider that it's an automatic.
Unreal....
1 Buick Grand National 10 possible Grand Nationals, or maybe ASC McLaren Capris or ASC McLaren Grand Prix' or?? 1 Aston Martin DB7. 2 Audi Quattro coupes (possibly a third). 13 BMW 635. 3 ARMORED BMW 7-series ('Protection'). 1 Duntov GT????. 100 or so Corvettes????. 24 Ford F-150 Lightnings. 2 Foose F-150s. 2 Roush F-150s. 1 Bentley Continental R. 1 GMC Typhoon. 1 '92 MB 500E
Possibly more GNX' than that... depends on what the other ASC cars are: GN/GNX? McLaren Capris? McLaren Grand Prix?
gamby wrote:John Brown wrote: And boys... the 5th line has a unicorn on it... A GNX.There's no F-ing way a GNX actually got clunkered. Those things have been prized as collector cars since they got released. I'm just not buying it.
Travis_K wrote: One of the audi allroads is actually at the junkyard down the street from where i live, there is nothing visibly wrong with it, but i guess it could have had some mechanical issues.
It most certainly did... it was an Audi. 
the w-body site has a list showing over 10 asc/mclaren turbo grand prixs
patgizz wrote: the w-body site has a list showing over 10 asc/mclaren turbo grand prixs
After doing some further checking, the W-body site is most likely wrong. The only cars listed as ASC on the government site are GN. The McLaren Grand Prix as simply listed as Pontiac - Grand Prix - Turbo, or - Turbo Ste.
There is no way to tell from the list of traded cars that any McLaren Grand Prix were traded in. They are simply lumped-in with all other Grand Prix by year.
all grand prix turbo and turbo ste are asc/mclaren cars though.
patgizz wrote: all grand prix turbo and turbo ste are asc/mclaren cars though.
Right, but there is zero way to know how many, if any, were traded-in. All Grand Prix are simply listed as Grand Prix & Year under 'Pontiac'.
The only break-out for ASC cars -as ASC- is for the GN/GNX.
It's too bad cars aren't powered by bullE36 M3, then we could just stop by DC every once in a while for a fill up
In reply to JeepinMatt:
there's a 20th anniv 1989 turbo trans am on the list too 
plus the list does specifically say 5 1990 grand prix STE turbos(4 door sleeper - only 1k made), 1 1989 turbo, and 3 1990 turbos. it doesnt lump them in with the other gp's.
patgizz wrote: plus the list does specifically say 5 1990 grand prix STE turbos(4 door sleeper - only 1k made), 1 1989 turbo, and 3 1990 turbos. it doesnt lump them in with the other gp's.
My mistake - must have been paging too quickly
just thought- that would seem to confirm that 11 GN/GNX bit the dust......
I remember hearing some gov't representitive that was over seeing the CFC program describing it on a NPR talk show, and he said plain as day that a car appraised for more than 4500 wouldn't be eligable for the program, and that the person trading it in should just get the apraised value. I guess appraised values can be subjective but I can't see a dealer with any brains junking a car that was definitly a profit waiting to happen.
There is a large dealership near where I work, and thier trade in storage lot is right next to my shop, I haven't seen any thing in there that I would be realy sad to see crushed. There are a couple of decent looking extras in there, but I guess with the SUV maket soo weak they could be legit> $4500 value.
ASC did tons of conversions on tons of cars so there is no way to know which ones are which.
ASC did lots of convertibles.
HappyAndy wrote: I remember hearing some gov't representitive that was over seeing the CFC program describing it on a NPR talk show, and he said plain as day that a car appraised for more than 4500 wouldn't be eligable for the program, and that the person trading it in should just get the apraised value. I guess appraised values can be subjective but I can't see a dealer with any brains junking a car that was definitly a profit waiting to happen. There is a large dealership near where I work, and thier trade in storage lot is right next to my shop, I haven't seen any thing in there that I would be realy sad to see crushed. There are a couple of decent looking extras in there, but I guess with the SUV maket soo weak they could be legit> $4500 value.
I wish I had my camera. We still have 8 of our CFCs out there.
The 2002 Chevrolet 1500 extended cab 6.0L and the 2001 Wrangler with hardtop, soft top, lift kit and 15x10 Alcoas are still out there.
are they nice?
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