Dumbest thing I have read so far is that Torque Monster headers will be available for purchase again after the first of the year. Now, mind you this is the "ONLY" (where is the rolleyes smiley????) header option for most V8 Ranger swaps after the 98 model year, double a-arm front suspension.
So without adieu, this is what almost 700 dollars gets you!!!
N Sperlo wrote:fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.It won't effect the airflow or boost because the increased altitude won't effect the speed at which air evacuates the engine. Only the RPM can effect the speed of the turbo. Altitude effects the amount of oxygen in the air in turn effecting the power of the engine. The turbo will add more air, but it can't magically add oxygen, therefore the engine IS effected quite drasticly.
Turbo speed, for the most part, affects the turbo's pressure ratio, not the airflow. Sounds a little backwards but that's the way turbos work. They aren't air movers so much as centrifugal air compressors. Turbo speed only really starts to increase with airflow once the turbo is outside of its efficiency range.
Air for the most part is always the same oxygen content, the problem is density. At 18,000 feet, the air has half the density at sea level. Ignoring a few percentage points here or there, the turbo will be spinning the same speed to make sea-level pressure at 18,000 as it would to make 14.7psi boost at sea level. Both are a 2:1 pressure ratio.
Now, the thing to think about is, how much extra power does it take to compress the air that additional amount to make up for the lower density, vs. how much better is it that the turbine exit sees a lower pressure due to the lower ambient pressure. And how much less power does it take to move through the thinner air vs. how well does the prop work...
I'm sensing many detailed 3-dimensional charts where people more geeky than I have worked everything out.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:pilotbraden wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: Hmmm lets see if I have it straight. Ambient air, cooled by ambient air, should have the temperature of ambient air.And of course it doesn't matter what temperature any of the three ambient airs are! It's air, it all makes the same power!
The temp only matters when the engine is running....duh!
Ranger50 wrote: Dumbest thing I have read so far is that Torque Monster headers will be available for purchase again after the first of the year. Now, mind you this is the "ONLY" (where is the rolleyes smiley????) header option for most V8 Ranger swaps after the 98 model year, double a-arm front suspension. So without adieu, this is what almost 700 dollars gets you!!!
Where's the dumb part? Most decent headers are in the $700 range and they usually are a lot less complicated than those, and have a wider audience (can spread setup costs out more) than people putting old V8s in new IFS trucks.
I'd post a pick of a set of $2000 headers for a rotary but they're not appropriate for this thread, because they aren't stupid, just badass.
Knurled wrote: Where's the dumb part?
I can have a chassis shop make a complete set of long tubes for $800. Or take existing Mustang shorties, reroute one or two tubes for the steering shaft on the drivers side for less than $400. Or I can fab up a weld el log for nearly no money...
Ranger50 wrote:Knurled wrote: Where's the dumb part?I can have a chassis shop make a complete set of long tubes for $800. Or take existing Mustang shorties, reroute one or two tubes for the steering shaft on the drivers side for less than $400. Or I can fab up a weld el log for nearly no money...
I can't do any of those things, so $700 sounds pretty good to me. 
Somewhere some total idiot said: "Rotary engines aren't as robust as reciprocating piston engines, and if you turbocharge them, they'll blow if you just look at them funny."
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I can't do any of those things, so $700 sounds pretty good to me.
LOL.. At least someone has the coin... I sure don't. Building instead of buying "junk" thrills me more.
Ranger50 wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I can't do any of those things, so $700 sounds pretty good to me.LOL.. At least someone has the coin... I sure don't. Building instead of buying "junk" thrills me more.
How about i just drive down to you and pay you $350 to do the same job?
Back when I had my Cobra, I was researching twin turbo kits. I wanted to find the hotside pre-fabbed so I would just have to worry about the coldside. I was looking at headers to use and I found some from Sean Hyland Motorsports. Anybody care to guess how much these beauties are?
Whatever your guess was, double it. Those headers are $4400!!! They must be hand formed by leprechauns using the purest unicorn E36 M3 for that price...
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:Ranger50 wrote:I can't do any of those things, so $700 sounds pretty good to me.Knurled wrote: Where's the dumb part?I can have a chassis shop make a complete set of long tubes for $800. Or take existing Mustang shorties, reroute one or two tubes for the steering shaft on the drivers side for less than $400. Or I can fab up a weld el log for nearly no money...
Yep, you get what you pay for. A cobbled OEM manifold probably isn't going to flow as well, and I won't comment on the weld-el log other than wondering if a regular manifold from a 70s car would clear everything in the way for even less effort.
There are a lot of people who have the means and just want to trade a credit card number for a bolt-in solution shipped to their door in a timely manner.
Better yet, some of them drop their projects off at shops and want to pick up running, driving, finished products. Those are my favorite. It means I get to get paid to put projects together, instead of the other way around.
Ranger50 wrote:Knurled wrote: Where's the dumb part?I can have a chassis shop make a complete set of long tubes for $800. Or take existing Mustang shorties, reroute one or two tubes for the steering shaft on the drivers side for less than $400. Or I can fab up a weld el log for nearly no money...
Sounds like a money making opportunity, get on it.
In reply to stanger_missle:
You answered your own question by saying it was that shyster and "junk" dealer Hyland... Being Canuk he used/abused the dollar exchange rate to line his pockets even deeper. Everything he sold was in 'nuk bucks, but never changed the exchange rate for US dollar. This was the time when it was $1US to 1.4-ish 'nuk buck. So selling to US customers was a boon for him.
The dumbest thing I read on the interwebs, sadly, is that leaders doubt they will be able to pass a budget to save us from the so called fiscal cliff.
A close second would be that the house speaker has called for the senate just to pass something for the house to consider as a way to get the ball rolling. Cause, you know, thats how congress works?
Politics shouldn't count for this thread. Even if nobody argued, it would surpass Ignore. in about a week.
Here's a good one. Setup is that someone has a new cam that was ground improperly - a few of the lobes sit further out than the bearing journals so it won't go into the engine.
"I JUST cant believe crower could screw up a cam like this !! #-o ....AND THEY better NOT try to cut what i have !!"
"Why wouldn't they grind that cam. That's the correct way to do it."
"Because i dont want my base circle any smaller , and taking any off the top of my lobe will decrease lobe lift .."
stanger_missle wrote: Back when I had my Cobra, I was researching twin turbo kits. I wanted to find the hotside pre-fabbed so I would just have to worry about the coldside. I was looking at headers to use and I found some from Sean Hyland Motorsports. Anybody care to guess how much these beauties are?
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z31maniac wrote: Sounds like a money making opportunity, get on it.
I actually floated a trial balloon, but noone bit on it with any realistic intentions. The replies I got back were on the order of "Sure, for $250!" or "I can't see paying more then $350." That barely buys the steel before cutting a tube and laying a bead on it.
I also don't have the facilities to do it either anymore or I already would have make a prototype or 10.
Knurled wrote: Here's a good one. Setup is that someone has a new cam that was ground improperly - a few of the lobes sit further out than the bearing journals so it won't go into the engine. "I JUST cant believe crower could screw up a cam like this !! #-o ....AND THEY better NOT try to cut what i have !!" "Why wouldn't they grind that cam. That's the correct way to do it." "Because i dont want my base circle any smaller , and taking any off the top of my lobe will decrease lobe lift .."
You'll be terrified to know the only option on cams for my cars were made by a Russian with a bench grinder.....now we have machined ones.....lol
I found the original Jurassic Park 4 concept from 2004. Human/dino hybrid soldiers to fight the regular dinos.
Longer fore arms with more dexterous fingers. Dog DNA for loyalty. Human DNA for intelligence. Drug pumps to control then with adrenalin and serotonin.
Lets see what will happen with the current JP4 in the works.
Something from forteforums a few months ago:
I had an argument with someone who got a turbo kit for their car and bragged about how they now had 300HP!!!300TQ!!! because the company said that their 176bhp/160ishtq car +7psi = 300hp/300tq=]
He didnt agree when I said his calculations were off=]
other people argue about how their car is getting MUCH lower than advertised mpg (27 instead of 30 lmao)
Someone literally said they were going to buy a tuned factory ecu (which actually is for sale) and swap out with their stock ecu if they have to go in for service. only one problem: when you buy the tuned ecu you have to send your stock ecu in as a core.
first day on the internet kid said: Hey everyone, i had a quick question relating to transmission swapping if i were to get rid of my current trans would an honda civic si trans fit in our vehicles? Sorry if this isnt in the correct location but thanks for the replys
there are so many "if you have to ask then you can't do it" questions on forte forums=]
his reasoning was that SI transmissions "are built to be stronger and hold more power" (which they are not, they are weaker than the glass subaru 5 speeds). Alot of people supported his idea.
All this useless conjecture, while turbokits.com has been running 15psi on their test car (they pushed it to around 25 or so iirc one time) and hasn't killed the stock clutch, much less killed the trans. lol
31 pages of stupid
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?6178-SRTforums-quote-of-the-day.&highlight=srtforums
Cole_Trickle wrote: http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/3481153126.html CL Mustang
302 punched out to 505, 2K+ Hp, 4.16@165.
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