The dumbest thing you've read on the interwebs today.

Mine:

I dont think turbo'd engines will give noticeable difference whether in hot or cold weather, the air is still being cooled in the same intercooler. IMO of course.

Hang on i'm gonna go troll around on the Escort forums or something.

Nevermind, ProbeTalk came through in spades, concerning the G25MR transmission attached to the KL in the Probe GT. Nevermind the fact that his has been turbocharged and is making at least twice the power the motor did from factory, which you know.... is what the trans was designed to handle.

Derpy McDerpson said: I am not an idiot. I drive this machine better than most could even dream of driving it themselves. The gearbox is not my fault; I didn't design the thing. I just drove it the way it should be driven and it couldn't handle the power put through third gear. Simple E36 M3ty designing made it fail.

Derpy McDerpson AGAIN said: One guy here mentioned a transmission breaking while just idling through a parking lot. A few others have had them fail at STOCK horsepower levels. This gearbox is anemic. I would have designed it much better myself, but I wasnt in charge of that.

In reply to Bobzilla:

Makes sense to me, OF COURSE ambient temperature has NOTHING to do with engine performance.

In reply to Bobzilla:

Hmmm lets see if I have it straight. Ambient air, cooled by ambient air, should have the temperature of ambient air.

pilotbraden wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: Hmmm lets see if I have it straight. Ambient air, cooled by ambient air, should have the temperature of ambient air.

And of course it doesn't matter what temperature any of the three ambient airs are! It's air, it all makes the same power!

Bobzilla wrote: Mine:

I dont think turbo'd engines will give noticeable difference whether in hot or cold weather, the air is still being cooled in the same intercooler. IMO of course.

Another awesome tidbit of information from the same forums:

FACT: Auto Timers are used for both NA and FI cars to help provide longevity.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

I am sure that altitude and atmospheric pressure have little or no effect either.

In reply to pilotbraden:

Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

It has an effect, just not "as much" as on an N/A car.

Of course, it will have NO effect if the tune/ECU on the car works off of target kPa electronically as a form of boost control. (Well, besides potentially slightly increased lag and maybe a little more heat due to the turbo working harder/spinning faster to make the same absolute pressure.)

Hold on, let me go check The Car Lounge. Should only take a second.

Probe Owner (Pro-boner?) said: ok so then the 375 to 400 hp is out the window if i can go 12s for under 300 i plan on running a 255 walbro with 60lb injectors on a 60 millimeter throttle body factory turbo with an hks or equivilent bov and turbo timer with a lil bit port and polish to the turbo inlet for exhaust side and the intake side with 2.25 hard pipes and a 3inch downpipe to 2.5 all the way back no cat to a brospeed 2.5 in 4 out high flow muffler plan on contacting michael knight for an ecu to get rid of fuel cut and i want an air ride setup for the suspension i found on in a focus at the yard but sombody stabbed the the rear bags making them useless it also had a lambo door kit wich would be neet i javnt seen a probe like ours with one yet. anyways im hopeing to accomplish all this for around 1k since i allready have the injectors oh and keep in mind that this will still be my daily driver but since im the only one that will ride in it back and forth to work a lil weight reduction wouldnt hurt i allready got a nice set of wheels and tires 205 60 15 bridgestone potenza grids on some RW mirage ultra lights

I don't have to deal with this idiocy on shoforums.......they ban people for being retarded.

I've been loling @ the forte forums tards though, keep linking bob.

someone said: Anyone want to help me do a camo paint job with krylon cans on my LS400?

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

I had a hard time breathing through all of that with no punctuation. Wow, he started off semi-coherent and just spiraled out of control about the time my eyes went cross.

fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

Sure, if you don't take into account varying turbo efficiency at the different pressure ratios required. Or the risk of turbo overspeed, which is why all turbo engines have a critical altitude.

So i live in Syracuse, NY, where its currently dumping snow. Driving a Volvo V70 R, which has a quite nice awd system for those who are unfamiliar. So to set up the story i hang a right, initiate a drift (or power slide idk the proper terminology for awd cars, regardless, i was going sideways) then about 100 feet, nasty transfer left, pro apex hit into the entrance of a gas station, 30 feet, another ill transfer back right into the parking lot. Then im bustin' a nasty slide through the lot, yank the e-brake and park like a berkeleyin boss into a spot right next to a car. So i go inside to casually buy a drink and leave when the employee goes "SIR! SIR! are you driving the volvo?!"..."yes"...."Well you almost hit my car and his car!! (other worker)" I wish i wasn't such a Bob Costas otherwise i would have talked huge E36 M3 and left because this guy was being as shiny happy person. And i was in full control the whole damn time. If i knew how big of an ass this guy was i would have just hit his car honestly. and yes im an irresponsible kid and it was stupid so you dont have to call me one in case thats your plan on this here thread. So, who else has these stories and wants to share?

fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

It won't effect the airflow or boost because the increased altitude won't effect the speed at which air evacuates the engine. Only the RPM can effect the speed of the turbo. Altitude effects the amount of oxygen in the air in turn effecting the power of the engine. The turbo will add more air, but it can't magically add oxygen, therefore the engine IS effected quite drasticly.

N Sperlo wrote:

fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

It won't effect the airflow or boost because the increased altitude won't effect the speed at which air evacuates the engine. Only the RPM can effect the speed of the turbo. Altitude effects the amount of oxygen in the air in turn effecting the power of the engine. The turbo will add more air, but it can't magically add oxygen, therefore the engine IS effected quite drasticly.

Again, depends on how the system is set up.

dean1484 wrote: These cars were hugely fast for there time. The 87 928s4 with a 5 speed I drove for a while would easily do 180 and topped out at well over 200. These are supper high-speed German muscle car designed to cruz the autobond at extremely high speed. (Yes I did this). 0 to 60 was fast for it's day but today's base corvette will smoke it. The bottom line is drive a good one not a clapped out POS then decide

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

N Sperlo wrote:

fritzsch wrote: In reply to pilotbraden: Theoretically altitude shouldn't have much of an effect on a turbocharged engine. The pressure differential from increased altitude spins the turbine wheel faster and helps make up for the decreased air density. Allegedly.

It won't effect the airflow or boost because the increased altitude won't effect the speed at which air evacuates the engine. Only the RPM can effect the speed of the turbo. Altitude effects the amount of oxygen in the air in turn effecting the power of the engine. The turbo will add more air, but it can't magically add oxygen, therefore the engine IS effected quite drasticly.

Again, depends on how the system is set up.

System setup, system schmetup.

I would like to get a general response from the forum about the ride, noise and comfort quality of the koup. I am beginning to notice that the front wheels is very loud and bumpy even though i changed my tires to Michelins. I feel that it seems very lose and it has only been 3 years of owning the Koup.

Another gem from the ForteForums.

These forums are funny. Where else does a "post stupid things" thread lead to an actual conversation about turbocharging?

Brett_Murphy wrote: These forums are funny. Where else does a "post stupid things" thread lead to an actual conversation about turbocharging?

I like to nerd out on that stuff, only to utterly ignore it on my own cars.

My logic in real world applications goes something like this:

Is the car slow? Add more boost.
Are my AFRs lean? Add more fuel.
Are my AFRs rich? Add more boost.

Repeat steps 2 and 3 until fuel system or turbo is maxed out. Then:

Is fuel system maxed out? Bigger pump/injectors
Turbo maxed out? Bigger turbo.

After those steps are completed, repeat steps 2 and 3 until fuel system or turbo is maxed out, then return to second portion again.

Continue this cycle until something blows up spectacularly, then dial it back a notch.

This is how i found out that my stock motor in my daily driver will huff 25-27psi from a turbo probably 2-3x larger than factory without complaining, but the factory clutch won't like it so much.

In reply to Brett_Murphy:

You beat me to it.

I was gonna say...

What's the dumbest thing you've read on the interwebs today?

3 guys arguing about something a retard from another forum posted

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: My logic in real world applications goes something like this: Is the car slow? Add more boost. Are my AFRs lean? Add more fuel. Are my AFRs rich? Add more boost. Repeat steps 2 and 3 until fuel system or turbo is maxed out. Then: Is fuel system maxed out? Bigger pump/injectors Turbo maxed out? Bigger turbo. After those steps are completed, repeat steps 2 and 3 until fuel system or turbo is maxed out, then return to second portion again. Continue this cycle until something blows up spectacularly, then dial it back a notch. This is how i found out that my stock motor in my daily driver will huff 25-27psi from a turbo probably 2-3x larger than factory without complaining, but the factory clutch won't like it so much.

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.