If only someone could've stopped those berkeleying whack-jobs who wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence. Seriously. Everybody has to pay taxes. Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and the like should've just STFU and paid like everyone else. Scumbags. We should destroy that document, and any reference to it, so that no one will be provoked to do anything like that ever again!
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
That's berkeleyin terr-ist talk! I'm forwarding that E36 M3 to the proper authorities.
poopshovel wrote:
If only someone could've stopped those berkeleying whack-jobs who wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence. Seriously. Everybody has to pay taxes. Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and the like should've just STFU and paid like everyone else. Scumbags. We should destroy that document, and any reference to it, so that no one will be provoked to do anything like that ever again!
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
That's berkeleyin terr-ist talk! I'm forwarding that E36 M3 to the proper authorities.
Lemme guess: you are gonna do that by jumping a CRX into the side of an IRS building. 
poopshovel wrote:
If only someone could've stopped those berkeleying whack-jobs who wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence. Seriously. Everybody has to pay taxes. Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and the like should've just STFU and paid like everyone else. Scumbags. We should destroy that document, and any reference to it, so that no one will be provoked to do anything like that ever again!
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
That's berkeleyin terr-ist talk! I'm forwarding that E36 M3 to the proper authorities.
that's not even close to the same thing, nor is it what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who like to end their own life and take a few others out with them. I'm not speaking to the political nature of this guys actions. The methods used at the time of our revolution were not murder-suicide plots, the purpose of our declaration was not to incite civil unrest without purpose. This guy was taking out his frustration with his own life by ending it and taking as many members of the IRS in that building that he could. He wasn't trying to organize and begin a revolutionary form of government in our country. It's people like the VT shooter, Columbine, and this guy that I'm talking about.
In reply to nocones:
No doubt that you have good intentions.
But how do you impose a media black-out when the industry believes revenue is generated by sensational headlines and ratings?
Self-imposed? Perhaps, but good luck with that.
Mandated by law? Please, don't even go there.
I'm not saying a media blackout is the answer. I don't know what the answer is. That's why I'm asking. Obviously what we do today doesn't seem to do a lot to prevent these things as they seem to happen about 1/month.
nocones wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
If only someone could've stopped those berkeleying whack-jobs who wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence. Seriously. Everybody has to pay taxes. Jefferson, Adams, Franklin and the like should've just STFU and paid like everyone else. Scumbags. We should destroy that document, and any reference to it, so that no one will be provoked to do anything like that ever again!
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
That's berkeleyin terr-ist talk! I'm forwarding that E36 M3 to the proper authorities.
that's not even close to the same thing, nor is it what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who like to end their own life and take a few others out with them. I'm not speaking to the political nature of this guys actions. The methods used at the time of our revolution were not murder-suicide plots, the purpose of our declaration was not to incite civil unrest without purpose. This guy was taking out his frustration with his own life by ending it and taking as many members of the IRS in that building that he could. He wasn't trying to organize and begin a revolutionary form of government in our country. It's people like the VT shooter, Columbine, and this guy that I'm talking about.
I disagree with you there. (I think?) As long as we're making broad-based assumptions about this cat, based on very limited knowledge of events (which is totally fine IMO, as long as we recognize it as such,) I'd speculate that the guy didn't say "I'm going to kill myself, might as well take a bunch of berkeleyers with me," but more likely said "I'm going to take out some of these berkeleyers who've made my life miserable, and I sure as E36 M3 ain't gonna stick around for the cops to show up so I can go to ass-rapin prison for the rest of my miserable life." At which point, in theory, flying a plane into a building full of the people you want to kill is a pretty efficient method.
slantvaliant wrote:
ignorant wrote:
bet he was a teabagger.
What do his sexual practices have to do with anything? 
Bhahaha!!!
The unadulterated hypocrisy found in the teabagger slur is absolutely hysterical.
Liberals tout themselves as being the champions of tolerance. Although I believe it’s true in many cases, there’s certainly no shortage of fakes.
As a conservative, I’m totally perplexed by the teabag jab.
I have no animosity towards alternative lifestyle folks and I assumed liberals would say something along the lines of “well, at least he’s on board with us in that regard” but no, some try to insult me with something that relates to their own core values.
"curious captain"
poopshovel wrote:
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
That's berkeleyin terr-ist talk! I'm forwarding that E36 M3 to the proper authorities.
The principal difference between a patriot and a terrorist is which side wins the revolution.
billy3esq wrote:
The principal difference between a patriot and a terrorist is which side wins the revolution.
That about sums it up - The difference is perspective.
In reply to RX Reven':
Intolerance towards the intolerance of liberals is intolerable.
JG Pasterjak wrote:
RossD wrote:
Well after further reading, I'm glad no one other than himself died. On a second note, why do manifestos have to be so long and boring. At least the unabomber had the correct chronological order of crazy. He maimed and killed then released his manifesto. I didnt even hear about this crazy man's antics and his manifesto was already on the web? Stupid crazies, they dont even know how to self-publicize these days. He probably thought he'd come home after the crash and update faceblow and twitterspace on how glorious and self-righteous he was. Dumb-ass.
No kidding. It's like listening to "stairway" for God's sake. Just get to the breif rocking part, let me bang my euromullet a bit and then you can get back to your sentitive crap before you have to play "Black Dog."
Here's the best mass-murder/suicide note ever. If anyone uses this, feel free to change it to suit your needs, but please give me at least a little credit.
"My particular subset of society feels disenfranchised by your larger and more well funded, but probably shockingly similar subset of society. I will attempt to destroy the stereotypes of my people and reinforce the stereotypes of YOUR people with this act of bombing/killing/tacofarting/arsoning/gassing/etc. your facility. The result of this action is that if I die, stereotypes of me will be upheld and you will look like total heroes... so... uh, that sucks. So, hopefully, a lot of us will be injured, and you'll be all dickish about it, but I'll get to use my one semester at Central State JuCo first aid class to help a few people then be all tough like "I wanted to blow them up, but now that I see how pathetic they are I saved a few so they could totally live out their pathetic lives being pathetic. Then I would take your hottest surviving chicks to a Devildriver concert."
That's my manifesto there, baby.
jg
JG, your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I have to vote this post up for the first Devildriver reference I have ever seen on GRM forums. 
nocones wrote:
Is their a way we could treat the outcome that may prevent individuals from thinking it's a valid option?
maybe get some homo-necro dudes to ass-pound on live TV broadcast the corpse of anyone who does this sort of thing? i dunno, seems about as reasonable as self-imposed restraint by the "news" media.
AngryCorvair wrote:
nocones wrote:
Is their a way we could treat the outcome that may prevent individuals from thinking it's a valid option?
maybe get some homo-necro dudes to ass-pound on live TV broadcast the corpse of anyone who does this sort of thing? i dunno, seems about as reasonable as self-imposed restraint by the "news" media.
The mental picture of that made me snort coffee.
I personally think we should report suspicious board posts like this to the high exhaulted leaders so they can properly interrogate the participants to make sure their motives are pure. You never know what some of these people might be capable of. Best not to take chances. Round them up.
Marty!
HalfDork
2/19/10 3:25 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
billy3esq wrote:
The principal difference between a patriot and a terrorist is which side wins the revolution.
That about sums it up - The difference is perspective.
Billy, I have to ask, is that a quote from somebody or from your brilliant mind?
That has to be the truest thing I have read in a long time.
The principal difference between a patriot and a terrorist is which side wins the revolution.
A more accurate way of saying this would be: it depends what side you are on. In WW II, the Japanese and Germans viewed Allied soldiers as barbarians and vice versa. Currently the Muslim radicals view their homicide bombers as heroes and us as terrorists and vice versa.
The main difference is that the victorious side gets to write the history books.
But back to the thread subject: this poor schmuck felt like he'd been buttberkeleyed enough and was just not willing to take it any longer. Having been on the bad end of governmental gridlock before, I can wholeheartedly understand his frustration.
At some point those who are smart enough to realize how bad Big Gummint is shafting us Schmucky the Clown types so a relative few can walk around feeling important about themselves will revolt. I only hope the revolution is ballot box driven: i.e. bloodless.
Marty! wrote:
He doesn't seem to be the crackpot that the media makes him out to be. That was pretty articulate. Sucks it happened but if it raises awareness then he succeeded.
You're right he's a selfish crackpot, cheating, murderer! They were being far too nice.
I want to set up a homocidal-ideation hotline. There are so many ways to creatively vent frustration and/or make a statement without spilling blood or blowing things up.
Racer1ab wrote:
I have to vote this post up for the first Devildriver reference I have ever seen on GRM forums.
I aim to please.
Of course, now we've entered the next phase of Joe Stackmania, which is the phase where each side perverts his manifesto to suit their own completely unrelated political agenda and demonize their opponents by trying to link him to this guy.
"Liberals" paint him as a Tea-Partier, while Rush Limbaugh says that the manifesto reads "almost word for word" like something written by Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi or Rahm Emmanuel or Barack Obama.
Seriously? This is what passes for analysis of an unfortunate event now? Instead of trying to understand the motivations behind the event, our commentators CO-OPT HIS TERRORIST ACT TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGANDAS!?!?! That's messed up.
jg
JG Pasterjak wrote:
Seriously? This is what passes for analysis of an unfortunate event now? Instead of trying to understand the motivations behind the event, our commentators CO-OPT HIS TERRORIST ACT TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGANDAS!?!?! That's messed up.
I'm sorry. You give me more credit than I am due... I merely try to blame everything on a teabagger for Ha-Ha's. (and to wind up Dr. Hess and Oldsaw)
I wasn't using you as an example, Ig. I know the temptation of Hessabiting, and know that it's so hard to resist.
No, I was talking about what passes for "News" in our world today. Nearly all news has become commentary, and not even decent commentary. More like snarky, sarcastic insults masquerading as "satire." Actually it's not even masquerading as satire. Its spewers claim that it is satire when they wouldn't know the first thing about what satire actually was if you beat them to death with a stack of Mr. Show DVDs.
jg
JG Pasterjak wrote:
I wasn't using you as an example, Ig. I know the temptation of Hessabiting, and know that it's so hard to resist.
Well
Thanks for ruining my 15 milliseconds of fame.
TucoRamirez wrote:
I want to set up a homocidal-ideation hotline. There are so many ways to creatively vent frustration and/or make a statement without spilling blood or blowing things up.
You mean high tech stuff like creative dentistry and electric shock or are you just thinking blunt force trauma?
oldsaw
Dork
2/19/10 10:35 p.m.
ignorant wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote:
Seriously? This is what passes for analysis of an unfortunate event now? Instead of trying to understand the motivations behind the event, our commentators CO-OPT HIS TERRORIST ACT TO FURTHER THEIR OWN AGANDAS!?!?! That's messed up.
I'm sorry. You give me more credit than I am due... I merely try to blame everything on a teabagger for Ha-Ha's. (and to wind up Dr. Hess and Oldsaw)
I'll remember that tomorrow morning when I toss that used Lipton's in the trash.
Too bad it won't be Peggy.
