The rollover-my family should be dead

Thanks for the sympathys. I'll forward this thread to the Bros.

damn.. that is some serious stuff right there.

 Glad they're okay.  The things we walk away from in modern cars. Remember to wear your see seat belt and mind your speed. 

Thank Engineers they made it out of that one!!

God as well.....

Very glad to hear they're OK.  That ain't pretty.

Pick up trucks suck lemons in roll over accidents.

Whew... lucky. 

I've been guilty of driving too fast in crappy weather.

I will never own another 4x4 truck that doesn't get snow tires.  If I keep my E-350 diesel van, it's definitely getting a second set of wheels and W965 Blizzaks. 

Dang, glad to hear they all got out of it fairly unscathed.

Snow tires usually won't save you on black ice, ask me how I know.

What a fortunate ending.

Glad everyone is ok.

Wow, that truck did not fare well.  Are there rollover crash test requirements for pickups?

In reply to ProDarwin :

I think they have standards for the 1/2 ton trucks, but beyond that it's not really mandated...  I believe the break point is/was 6K pounds curb weight.  So, an F150 could be safer in a rollover than an F250/F350 as those are really tested like an F150...  

fasted58 said:

Holy berkeley 

glad they're all okay

Yeah, those are pretty much the exact words I was going to use.  I'm really glad to hear everyone is OK.

Duke said:

fasted58 said:

Holy berkeley 

glad they're all okay

Yeah, those are pretty much the exact words I was going to use.  I'm really glad to hear everyone is OK.

3rd

In reply to Appleseed :

They hit black ice at speed. Over they went. My dad was in the passenger seat, reclined and sleeping. Casey was sleeping in the back without a belt on.

No point in anyone on-board ever buying lottery tickets again. At speed ( note this is Montana where speeding is a sacrament), on all seasons, in winter, and no seatbelt.

Buy that truck a pint cause it sure as E36 M3 did it's job of keeping the occupants alive despite their best efforts.

Pete

That is some scary E36 M3.  Glad everyone is OK.

Precisely why I don't mind ever increasing safety standards in vehicles. 

Glad everyone made it out OK.

Which brings us to the question about driving conditions and speed: What did we learn on the show tonight?

Erich said:

Snow tires usually won't save you on black ice, ask me how I know.

What a fortunate ending.

Blizzaks no, studded tires you have a chance but no guarantees. Regardless, slow and steady in winter weather is always the best course of action. Glad they all made it.

Wow! Glad everyone is ok.

Kind of makes me worry about the strength of the cab of my truck seeing that I just slid off the highway on black ice a couple weeks ago pulling a 9000lbs trailer. Worst thing to happen was a leveling  jack broke on the trailer. 

Holy E36 M3, no seatbelt? That's a thing? I'm amazed people still do that.

Seriously, no lottery needed. Wow. Glad everyone is alive.

I have an older GMC pickup and seeing that has me thinking a roll bar (a real one) would not be the worst thing I could put on my truck.  It would also give me an excuse to add some supplemental lighting.    

Holy hell 

I'm glad everyone is OK.

Black ice scares the E36 M3 out of me. Especially at night.

One second everything is fine, one second later, it isn't.

Wow!

That is some scary E36 M3.  I’m glad they are ok!

Holy heck. What a mess! 

So glad everyone is ok! That truck is flatter than a youtubers conception of earth!

I do think blizzaks are measurably better on ice than all seasons, but at over 65, the distinction might be moot. I still pay for the extra insurance of better tires. 

Slight tangent: Of all the things we can do with sensors today, why is there no black ice laser? Shouldn't the differing refraction times be detectable? Seems like one of the few assist sensors I would pay to add to my cars.

Wow. Glad your family made it out OK.