Wind is a very practical solution to our energy needs. Maintenance costs are lower for a wind farm than a conventional power plant and the only land rendered useless by the turbines in the area taken up by the base of the tower. Farming and grazing and other similar activities can continue on a wind farm with very little losses. A typical wind turbine will start to make money in roughly 10 years and with some creative financing, will begin to turn a profit sooner.
thatsnowinnebago wrote: Wind is a very practical solution to our energy needs. Maintenance costs are lower for a wind farm than a conventional power plant and the only land rendered useless by the turbines in the area taken up by the base of the tower. Farming and grazing and other similar activities can continue on a wind farm with very little losses. A typical wind turbine will start to make money in roughly 10 years and with some creative financing, will begin to turn a profit sooner.
Good thing you missed how you first have to have a reliable supply of wind CLOSE to where you need to supply the power to. DOH! Oh, and yea, wind farms ain't cheap to build...
Research what happened to the Marble Hill nuclear plant in Indiana before you seriously suggest nuclear power as an option. The contractors were forced to hire a certain percentage of female and minority workers whether they were qualified to do the work or not. In the end the inspectors found the structure unsafe to start up and as far as I know it still sits empty.
Just my opinion, but with present work force laws and levels of greed, nuclear power will never be a safe option.
Mass producing windmill powerplants sounds like a good way to stimulate the economy as well as drilling for more natural gas and oil.
WLB wrote: Research what happened to the Marble Hill nuclear plant in Indiana before you seriously suggest nuclear power as an option. The contractors were forced to hire a certain percentage of female and minority workers whether they were qualified to do the work or not. In the end the inspectors found the structure unsafe to start up and as far as I know it still sits empty.
Well now you're opening up a whole nuther can of worms with the reverse discrimination.
WLB wrote: Research what happened to the Marble Hill nuclear plant in Indiana before you seriously suggest nuclear power as an option. The contractors were forced to hire a certain percentage of female and minority workers whether they were qualified to do the work or not. In the end the inspectors found the structure unsafe to start up and as far as I know it still sits empty...
Hmm, well I guess all the rumors are correct. The US is unable to build or create anything of quality. I guess we should just give up eh?
If the baboon level of intellect people that inhabit this country are unable to build a nuclear power plant (despite clearly being able to build nuclear submarines, nuclear aircraft carriers, satellites, particle colliders, advanced radars etc) how the HELL are they going to manage putting together some huge fan type thing with scary wires and everything!!??
Excuse me for a moment, I need to go throw my excrement at some passers by...
From stimulus explanation to flinging poo in less than 2 pages. I think this is a new board record! 
I don't doubt our ability to build a plant. The real problem lies with the Nimby type folks. Long Island Lighting built a nuke plant when i was a kid. The people that moved in around it had it shut down before it ever opened. Google Shorham for the story.
Wally wrote: I don't doubt our ability to build a plant. The real problem lies with the Nimby type folks. Long Island Lighting built a nuke plant when i was a kid. The people that moved in around it had it shut down before it ever opened. Google Shorham for the story.
Same thing happens with wind farms...google cape wind. Ted Kennedy has been fighting wind power for a long time..at least in his backyard.
I actually have a plan in place to help alleviate these problems when elected in 2012. I can't divulge the intimate details, but it involves a flight of B-52s, an emergency session of congress under executive order and some loud explosions.....
Remember, Elect ME in 2012.
Interestingly, he talks about creating all these construction and government jobs, but is getting rid of thousands of engineers and scientists that contribute vastly more sums of money to the economy. And if they can't find a job in the US, many will simply move overseas to areas that will pay them. I'm starting to see and hear rumblings of this from a few people I know. This is a dangerous situation that is going almost unnoticed.
Also, on a different front, my dad is a partner in a business that creates tech products for energy (coal, oil, and some wind, among others). Anyway, it is getting extremely difficult to do business in the US, so they are simply working out of South Africa and now Austrailia, where the climate is more condusive. In the US it seems, the new administration could really care less about a new, functioning energy policy, and are more interested in taxing and limiting what's being done, and playing it up big in the press like they have a plan. They are strangling the guys doing this everyday, especially coal, of which we have more in this country than the middle east has oil.
If the proposed tax rates continue on business as planned, more will simply move overseas where they actually have countries trying to get them to relocate, and have a chance of succeeding. It is insane what's being done in this country and someone better wake up before the damage gets too bad.
And yes, both parties have their share of idiots, but I've never witnessed such a disregard of common sense. I don't claim to be either a democrat or republican, but I sure would like to see someone else in power, Hillary is looking better all the time! 
At least she's just greedy....
thatsnowinnebago wrote: ... will start to make money in roughly 10 years and with some creative financing, will begin to turn a profit sooner.
Sentences like this scare me, especially considering the current economy.
Is there a difference between "making money" and "turning a profit"?
Just how creative does that financing need to be? Isn't creative financing EXACTLY what made toxic mortgages look like good investments?
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