The T.50 is a go

The T.50 from Gordon Murray is now a running prototype, so I called GMA to put down my deposit. Apparently, they are only allowing certain people to buy these cars! You have to have 2-million pounds or be rich or whatever. Regardless, I think it will be epic.

I am as excited about this car as I can get for something I will never have the chance to see, drive, or afford.  I will thoroughly enjoy watching Carfection/Top Gear/etc. drive it and hope that somehow The boys at Car Throttle get a chance to do a "Living with a T.50".    I think it's a technical marvel and am glad that it is being built as a sort of opposite to the Buggatti's and other faceless HYPERHYPER cars being made for multiple millions of dollars.  

That said I want the development mule 3 cyl that Cosworth made badly.  

What an exciting name. 

nocones said:

I am as excited about this car as I can get for something I will never have the chance to see, drive, or afford.

Agreed.  Excitement level: Zero.

I hope its cool for those who buy it though.  Does it have any tech that might trickle down?

Appleseed said:

What an exciting name. 

Right? Nothing elicits the feeling of speed and technology quite like a staple....

Or a big Torx fastener

In reply to ProDarwin :

It does has this amazing lever and rod system in the cockpit that allows for direct adjustment between the engine rotational velocity and ground speed of the wheels.  There is also a driver selectable coupler between the torque generator and torque transmitter input that facilitates changes to the internal torque relationship.  It is my sincere hope that these amazing technologies trickle down to other vehicles.  

That and the way the fan is used is pretty cool.

Honestly it's really just all current automotive technology turned up to 11.  The design is fully optimized using all available resources (CAD/FEA/CFD/Additive Manufacturing/Advanced Carbon Layups/Etc.) to create the lightest, highest NA specific power output vehicle possible.  

In reply to Trent :

I hope some JR engineer at Gordon Murray Design managed to sneak in a Torx fastener that is size T50 on the car. 

I mean the industry standard for seatbelts is a T50 so it is conceivable that it will have some (Probably drilled inconel ones) on the 3 points for the passenger seats.

I'm excited for parts of the T.50 more than the car itself- central seating position, heavily refined technologies... lots of this stuff could be copied on current OEM vehicles at current prices, so like Bitcoin I'm excited to see what it ends up creating. And please tell me that we will soon see formulas for copying that V12 setup with a junkyard Mercedes engine; starter-generators like the one it uses are beginning to show up in yards and EV guys have been back-engineering them for a little bit...

Considering how difficult it will be to find one, maybe 10.MM would have been a better name.

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Beyond that, nocones pretty well summed up my feelings on the car.

nocones said:

In reply to ProDarwin :

It does has this amazing lever and rod system in the cockpit that allows for direct adjustment between the engine rotational velocity and ground speed of the wheels.  There is also a driver selectable coupler between the torque generator and torque transmitter input that facilitates changes to the internal torque relationship.  It is my sincere hope that these amazing technologies trickle down to other vehicles.  

What a ridiculous concept!  The driver will be allowed to engage the coupler and adjust the ratios?!?!? 

NO idea what this thread is about.

nocones said:

In reply to Trent :

I hope some JR engineer at Gordon Murray Design managed to sneak in a Torx fastener that is size T50 on the car. 

I mean the industry standard for seatbelts is a T50 so it is conceivable that it will have some (Probably drilled inconel ones) on the 3 points for the passenger seats.

Total tangent but I always thought it was t47 for seatbelts?

nocones said:

That said I want the development mule 3 cyl that Cosworth made badly.  

Do we know if there is any similarity with the 12000rpm, naturally aspirated V12 that also started as a 3cylinder test model and Cosworth just happens to be making for the Aston Valkyrie?

I'd imagine that neither Aston Martin nor GMA really want to promote any similarity between their powerplants, but a place as small as Cosworth wouldn't be engineering two bespoke engines that are so similar right?

EDIT: I guess GMA says their V12 is 3.9L, and the Aston one is claimed to be 6.5L and an 11000rpm redline. So, more different than I expected

In reply to STM317 :

The internet says nothing is shared.  It would be logical that Cosworth would follow the same development path for both, and I'm sure some internal architecture is similar but with that large of a displacement swing I'm confident the blocks are different dimensions and therefore share no parts.

Driven5 said:

Considering how difficult it will be to find one, maybe 10.MM would have been a better name.

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%100. 

For me, the name "T-50" conjures up images of a Soviet-era light tank.  Probably exactly the kind of association the manufacturer is hoping the name makes in the minds of potential customers.  It had a top speed of 37 mph, and probably got there in a hurry.

Even after watching the vid I have no clue what this thing is or why its cool.  Anyone want to enlighten me?

Mr_Asa said:

Even after watching the vid I have no clue what this thing is or why its cool.  Anyone want to enlighten me?

It's a new supercar from Gordon Murray, the designer of the McLaren F1. It retains the center driving position and overall proportions from the F1.

It's essentially a no compromises, "money is no object" analog driver's machine. 12,000rpm naturally-aspirated V12, suction fan, manual gearbox, 2200lbs, 650hp, $2 million+ price tag, etc.

Ahh.  That does sound intriguing.

So is the suction fan the Buck Rodgers doo-dad on the back?

EDIT: Google and ye shal receive...

ummm...ok