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novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
6/18/15 11:59 a.m.

why is it that when a semi famous man decides that "he" is a "she", he/she is hailed as a hero and role model for everyone that doesn't feel like they belong in the body that they were born in, but when a white woman decides that she feels more like a black woman than the white woman that she was born as- and actually gets herself into a position to do good for the people that she relates to- she is mocked and ridiculed for being a phony that took advantage of the system to get ahead..

i can't be the only person that sees the hypocrisy in this, can i?

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
6/18/15 12:04 p.m.

Do you genuinely want to know? Or are you just trolling for flounder?

nderwater
nderwater PowerDork
6/18/15 12:23 p.m.

I think it all depends on how many times we will tolerate new threads on the same subject.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/forget-transgender-and-transabled-this-is-even-better/102806/page1/

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/remember-kirk-lazarus-from-tropic-thunder/102739/page1/

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UberDork
6/18/15 12:23 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote: Do you genuinely want to know? Or are you just trolling for flounder?

If it's the latter, may I offer this?

In all seriousness, as part of a multi racial family, I have some insight on this topic, but I won't discuss it here for the likelihood of things being taken out of context, but frizsch is on the PC/SFW version of the right track.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/18/15 12:25 p.m.

In reply to Beer Baron:

the jig is up.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
6/18/15 12:38 p.m.

I'm able to understand the gender issue.

I'm not able to understand the white girl who is trying to be black because I'm pretty sure that nothing bad has ever happened to because she's white.

I'm sure she's never been called the n-word or been discriminated against so by putting on blackface and trying to play the part, it seems more like she's making a joke of all the discrimination black people have faced.

I'm having a hard time putting this into words but what she is doing seems more like attention whoring than actually believing that she is part of another race.

Kinda like porn vs art. It's hard to describe the difference but you know it when you see it.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/15 12:38 p.m.

Serious answer: It's because there is some biological reason that a man might be born feeling that he should be a woman or vice-versa. There's no biological reason for a person to be born feeling that they are of another ethnicity any more than they should feel that they're a cartoon anthropomorphic animal or a dishwasher. At least not that we know of. So at the very least, there's a difference there that might explain the different reactions.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
6/18/15 12:50 p.m.

I feel I am a cartoon anthropomorphic animal trapped in a man's body.

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
6/18/15 12:53 p.m.

Serious answer, she has a history of using race to her advantage. I think it would probably have been a non-issue if that hadn't been the case.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
6/18/15 12:58 p.m.

What if you're a Native American who identifies as Indian (the kind from India)?

See, it sounds just as foolish.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
6/18/15 1:02 p.m.

Not that I agree or disagree with either, but she hid it (and as was stated, used it to her advantage deceivingly), and he didn't.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/18/15 1:06 p.m.

I'm a Pilipino Lesbian Penguin trapped in a middle aged white man's body. GPS what sort of cartoon animal, cartoon elephants or anything with a pooch is hot.

tuna55
tuna55 UltimaDork
6/18/15 1:12 p.m.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/15 1:12 p.m.

Not even at the end of page one and we're talking fursonas

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
6/18/15 1:12 p.m.

Is this kind of thing limited to white people?

Are there black people who want to be Asian?

Try being a guy and doing something like this, it would probably only be a matter of minutes until you get your ass kicked.

NOHOME
NOHOME UltraDork
6/18/15 1:21 p.m.

I'm a frech-puertorican-catholic-jew-from-nigeria-living-in-canada-born-in-the-usa

How do I cash in that portfolio

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
6/18/15 1:24 p.m.

Hiding or being forward about it shouldn't factor into being trans. The goal of most trans people is to pass as well as possible. They generally don't come out that they were once a different gender than they present as. It's not deceptive, it's who they are. Most don't usually come out to the world.

Please keep in mind, we have at least one member on this board who is MtoF trans. I have multiple friends who are trans (both MtoF and FtoM). This person has been a valuable, contributing member of the community, although I don't believe she has posted for a while.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
6/18/15 1:24 p.m.

I am Nigerian Royalty...

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/18/15 1:24 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME:

it's been YOU that's been sending me those emails this whole time.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/15 1:27 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote: I am Nigerian Royalty...

Where's my check?

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
6/18/15 1:31 p.m.

In reply to Beer Baron:

I miss KatyB's rampages that followed "Blew a tranny" posts.......

etifosi
etifosi Dork
6/18/15 1:40 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I feel I am a cartoon anthropomorphic animal trapped in a man's body.

Most people forget that the Giant Purple Snorklewacker lives in the closet.

An actual closet.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
6/18/15 2:05 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote: Hiding or being forward about it shouldn't factor into being trans. The goal of most trans people is to pass as well as possible. They generally don't come out that they were once a different gender than they present as. It's not deceptive, it's who they are. Most don't usually come out to the world. Please keep in mind, we have at least one member on this board who is MtoF trans. I have multiple friends who are trans (both MtoF and FtoM). This person has been a valuable, contributing member of the community, although I don't believe she has posted for a while.

Nobody said the he hid it, or that the fact that he didn't was right or wrong. I said that she hid the fact that she was faking being black, and in a professional position where it mattered. That's the difference. That's why she is getting in trouble for it and he didn't. You completely misunderstood what I said.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
6/18/15 2:09 p.m.
etifosi wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I feel I am a cartoon anthropomorphic animal trapped in a man's body.
Most people forget that the Giant Purple Snorklewacker lives in the closet. An actual closet.

Well, really, it was the a hand-drawn closet of a cartoon boy.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/18/15 2:10 p.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

I want you to lay my eggs, you venomously spurred mammal.

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