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tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 8:24 a.m.

Staying home this week. #1 has the week off from preschool anyway. Potty training #2, he's 2 1/2. He gets so excited when he starts peeing that he lifts his legs so that he can see what's going into the potty. It's then that he peed on Daddy. I'm going to go change my pants now. Yup, I posted first. #3 is still napping, otherwise this would be harder. Like yesterday.

Yesterday poo was involved. It made it as far as the kitchen and all of the kids were very interested/upset. Nice #4 coming in November is going to make this all the more interesting.

Graefin10
Graefin10 Dork
4/4/12 8:28 a.m.
tuna55 wrote: Staying home this week. #1 has the week off from preschool anyway. Potty training #2, he's 2 1/2. He gets so excited when he starts peeing that he lifts his legs so that he can see what's going into the potty. It's then that he peed on Daddy. I'm going to go change my pants now. Yup, I posted first. #3 is still napping, otherwise this would be harder. Like yesterday. Yesterday poo was involved. It made it as far as the kitchen and all of the kids were very interested/upset. Nice #4 coming in November is going to make this all the more interesting.

There's an operation you can get to take care of that.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/4/12 8:29 a.m.

Well at least you know to wear shorts and no shoes next time to make cleanup easier

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/4/12 8:30 a.m.

I remember my kid going through it. He was so proud when he could stand (on a step) and pee into a toilet.

The stupid cushion on the lid kept the seat from propping open correctly and it came down on his extension. The buttons on the bottom kept him from getting really hurt, but I'll never forget the scream and look on his face!

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 8:30 a.m.
Graefin10 wrote:
tuna55 wrote: Staying home this week. #1 has the week off from preschool anyway. Potty training #2, he's 2 1/2. He gets so excited when he starts peeing that he lifts his legs so that he can see what's going into the potty. It's then that he peed on Daddy. I'm going to go change my pants now. Yup, I posted first. #3 is still napping, otherwise this would be harder. Like yesterday. Yesterday poo was involved. It made it as far as the kitchen and all of the kids were very interested/upset. Nice #4 coming in November is going to make this all the more interesting.
There's an operation you can get to take care of that.

I require, and have not yet received, clearance from a certain interested party to do that.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UberDork
4/4/12 8:30 a.m.

16 hour shift and a and 5 hours of sleep before going back to work. Don't talk about naps.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 8:31 a.m.
914Driver wrote: I remember my kid going through it. He was so proud when he could stand (on a step) and pee into a toilet. The stupid cushion on the lid kept the seat from propping open correctly and it came down on his extension. The buttons on the bottom kept him from getting really hurt, but I'll never forget the scream and look on his face!

1 did that - no padded seat. He had a black and blue penis for a few days. He closes the lid much slower now, I guess he learned.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 8:32 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote: 16 hour shift and a and 5 hours of sleep before going back to work. Don't talk about naps.

Not my naps! I am lucky to get 5 straight hours. I typically get that many, but broken up into pieces. I'm with you.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/4/12 8:36 a.m.

Thing to remember if I ever have kids: Install latch to hold toilet seat up.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 8:38 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Thing to remember if I ever have kids: Install latch to hold toilet seat up.

nah - they have to learn sometime

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/4/12 8:55 a.m.

There is a reason I have banished "fuzzy covers" from toilet seats, they just do not stay up. I could not imagine getting bits squished by a falling seat.

Good luck!

failboat
failboat Dork
4/4/12 8:57 a.m.

They make those new fangled toilet lids that close slow now and don't slam down.

But wouldn't you rather your child learn to not slam their junk in a toilet in the comfort of your own home, rather than say a public restroom?

Osterkraut
Osterkraut UltraDork
4/4/12 9:25 a.m.
tuna55 wrote: Staying home this week. #1 has the week off from preschool anyway. Potty training #2, he's 2 1/2. He gets so excited when he starts peeing that he lifts his legs so that he can see what's going into the potty. It's then that he peed on Daddy. I'm going to go change my pants now. Yup, I posted first. #3 is still napping, otherwise this would be harder. Like yesterday. Yesterday poo was involved. It made it as far as the kitchen and all of the kids were very interested/upset. Nice #4 coming in November is going to make this all the more interesting.

Jesus Christ, same some resources for the rest of us, breeder!

rotard
rotard HalfDork
4/4/12 9:34 a.m.

So, at what point is it acceptable to get the snip done without telling your wife?

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
4/4/12 9:40 a.m.
rotard wrote: So, at what point is it acceptable to get the snip done without telling your wife?

IIRC, Doctors won't snip a married man without wife's consent.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
4/4/12 9:44 a.m.

I recall potty training. I had one kid at the far end of the normal time to learn, and a daughter who was just entering the proper age range. Nothing seemed to work. Back then, I relaxed by playing the Sims. I was working on a character, and the character had to go. For some reason, despite all the work the wife and I had done, it finally clicked for both kids when they saw that. Didn't have a problem afterwards.

Oh, and as for the other problem: I had my wife taken off-line after #2 in 13 months. I sure didn't like those odds, and considering we were doing everything but the obvious and still got her preggers with #2, we figured it was time.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
4/4/12 9:44 a.m.
rotard wrote: So, at what point is it acceptable to get the snip done without telling your wife?

If you're asking my opinion, never.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/4/12 9:47 a.m.
rotard wrote: So, at what point is it acceptable to get the snip done without asking the opinion of your wife?

FTFY.

The answer, BTW, would be: Anytime, just say, "my body, my choice. Get over it."

SkinnyG
SkinnyG HalfDork
4/4/12 10:04 a.m.

You know you're a parent when you try to catch the puke so that it doesn't land on the carpet.

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
4/4/12 10:08 a.m.

I can see it now, the carnage he creates after he says "Hey look at what I can do!". Some people are just born that way.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde Dork
4/4/12 10:09 a.m.
SkinnyG wrote: You know you're a parent when you try to catch the puke so that it doesn't land on the carpet.

And now I know why I'm not a parent!

More power to all you who are, but not my trip.

mndsm
mndsm UberDork
4/4/12 10:14 a.m.
914Driver wrote: I remember my kid going through it. He was so proud when he could stand (on a step) and pee into a toilet. The stupid cushion on the lid kept the seat from propping open correctly and it came down on his extension. The buttons on the bottom kept him from getting really hurt, but I'll never forget the scream and look on his face!

I'm gonna have nightmares about that now, thanks.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
4/4/12 10:19 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: There is a reason I have banished "fuzzy covers" from toilet seats, they just do not stay up. I could not imagine getting bits squished by a falling seat. Good luck!

http://cphs68.com/IN-SEARCH-OF-THE-SAVAGE-BIJOONA.pdf

(The following story appeared in the July 1973 issue of Playboy Magazine.)

IN SEARCH OF THE SAVAGE BIJOONA, the scourge of bathrooms everywhere, it preys upon the human male when he least expects it.

humor BY JAMES JACKSON KILPATRICK

ONE AFTERNOON in November of 1972, when I happened to be sojourning in Charlotte. taking the waters of North Carolina, I directed my native driver to take me to the telegraph office. There I dispatched the following wireless to the director-general at the Society's international headquarters in Woodville, Virginia: "HAVE SIGHTED BIJOONA. LETTER FOLLOWS." This is within the accepted form. Some members incline toward "REPORT FOLLOWS," but there is something ominous in "report," rather out of character, or so it has seemed to me, for those of us devoted to the discovery and eradication of bijoonas, wherever they may be found.

At one time, prior to the 1939 Revision of Forms and Procedures, it was customary to telegraph, "HAVE SPOTTED BIJOONA," but the Committee felt the phrase subject to a certain ambiguity that wisely should be avoided. In any event, I dispatched the customary message, and a bit later, as the November twilight gathered over this pleasant Southern city, I sat alone in my motel room, overlooking the parking lot, remembering other times, other bijoonas.

Good years, these. The Presidential-election years are best, of course, if only because one is traveling more. This past year proved especially fine: five before the election, and then, unexpectedly, in this new hostelry in Charlotte, a sixth! No record, of course— Tarver sighted nine in ] 948 and Stone of Scripps-Howard reported eight in 1952, including a Blue Double—but not bad, not bad.

It had not occurred to me, until I fell into casual conversation with a lady in Milwaukee in March, that there may be persons not familiar with the humanitarian work of the Society. But I recall her husky whisper, and die dark sweep of her languorous eyes, as she lifted her lovely head from the pillow to ask, "Darling, what is a bijoona?" It was then that I determined to prepare this small monograph, whenever time and appropriate opportunity might combine, not in the interests of publicizing the Society, which seeks no publicity, but in the hope of expanding the good work now being done.

In order quickly to comprehend the elementary but diabolical nature of the bijoona, it is necessary only to call to mind the ordinary, or conventional, toilet seat. This object commonly is found in the double-leafed version, though singles are not at all uncommon in public facilities and in lesser hotels. In repose, as it were, both the lid and the seat are in a horizontal position (H. P.). But when this familiar receptacle is put to its intended use by the male of the species, the components are raised to the vertical position (V. P.). Now, it sometimes happens that one, and occasionally both, of the components, instead of remaining obediently in the V. P., perversely will fall to the H. P. This phenomenon is at best an inconvenience. It can become a disaster. The phenomenon is known as a bijoona.

The etymology of the noun is obscure. An absurd story gained currency some 40 years ago that it derived from Bijou, from the theater of the same name. It was supposed that some theatergoer, having sought relief between Paramount News and Coming Attractions, encountered the phenomenon that is the subject of this paper and rushed headlong into the lobby, crying, "Bijoona! Bijoona!" In volume one of The American Language, H. L. Mencken dismissed this wild surmise, and I know of no serious student who embraces it today.

It was Mencken's conclusion that the origins of bijoona are simply onomatopoeic, in the fashion of many other nouns. If one imagines the descending component, as it whooshes from the V. P. to the H. P., catching the startled standee unaware, bijoona seems entirely appropriate. Bijoona! What else could one say?

So there we have it. The spelling has been fixed by the Society since 1939, though one encounters bijoona in parts of Alabama and Louisiana, and bijoona is common in the 23rd Congressional District of Pennsylvania. In France it is le bijouner, in Germany das Lidgetroppendammit. One finds djoona in the Punjab. British spelling follows our own.

The International Society of Bijoona Sighters was founded in 1935, largely through the inspirational efforts of Commodore Llewellyn N. Plunkitt, a Connecticut-born navigator and mathematician of Welsh extraction. His definitive paper, "The Bijoonas of New England," remains the finest work of its kind, though Professor Tarver's monumental Classifications has proved indispensable to the systematic study our subject deserves. Plunkitt, now retired from the Navy, in which he served with such distinction, continues to function without compensation, save in honor and acclaim, as director-general of the Society. It was to Commodore Plunkitt that my November wireless was dispatched.

You will understand more of the Society, perhaps, if I now insert in the record the letter I sent following my message. It read as follows: My Dear Plunkitt: Following my wireless of this date, I regret to advise you that at 4:58 o'clock this afternoon, in room 615 of the Downtowner East Motel in Charlotte, North Carolina, I have encountered a bijoona. This is a single, white seat by Olsonite, attached to fixture by Case Manufacturing Company, Robinson, Illinois. No exceptional features were observed. I should very much appreciate your sending the Society's usual Letter of Remonstrance and Plea for Abatement to the management of the motel aforesaid. With every good wish, and with warmest personal regards to your colleagues, believe me, sir, Your obdt. svt., etc.

On receipt of this communication, under the rules, Commodore Plunkitt took two actions. He sent me, by return post, the usual Certificate of Appreciation, which now hangs with other trophies in my dressing room. This recites the time and place of the discovery. I should add that each such certificate counts as one red point toward a bijoona life-mastership, awarded when the number reaches 50. Commodore Plunkitt also dispatched a formal Letter of Remonstrance to the Downtowner East Motel, to which was attached the usual Plea for Abatement. I feel certain, such is my confidence in the management, that the situation was at once put to rights. But so that you may understand the procedures, I should say that the Society retains a number of regional inspectors, properly accredited, each of them holding a life-mastership, whose duty is to determine if proper abatement has been made.

An adamant or indifferent manager may expect to find his establishment posted in the Society's yearbook, Bijoonas of North America. The 1972 edition, covering bijoonas un-corrected through the fiscal year ending June 30, thus identified 84 hostelries in the States, 11 in Canada and four in Mexico. The number was eight percent under that of the preceding year.

As you will have noted, the bijoona in room 615 was of the ordinary variety. It was nothing, truly, to provoke special attention. Under Tarver's Classifications, it was a single; that is to say, only the lower of the two components, and not both components, descended from the V. P. to the H. P. upon elevation. Had the specimen warranted full description, it might have been identified further as a single F. F., or Fast Fall. Much more interesting are the S.T.s, or Sneaky Topples. These are the bijoonas, deceptive little devils, that remain suspended in the V. P. for two or three seconds, just long enough for a gentleman to commence upon the act that brought him to the ambush in the first place. Then, wham!

These encounters demand speed, agility and poise. Tarver's ambidexterity some years ago in Oklahoma City, when he faced an S.T. in the old Huckins Hotel, remains a legend within the Society. He had just entered his room, rather in haste, and had neglected to put down an umbrella and a large bouquet of roses he was carrying in his right hand. It was his mother's birthday. How Tarver preserved dignity, umbrella and roses, all in a lightning stroke, is the stuff of which epics are made.

You may ask, as the lady in Milwaukee asked, what causes a bijoona? The most common cause (it is invariably the cause of a double F. F.) is the seat cover, frequently encountered in the chambers of maiden ladies. Such an adornment produces the Shaggy Bijoona, a species so quickly recognized as seldom to cause difficulty. The gentleman who approaches a John thus caparisoned is put on notice at once that a bijoona may be lying in wait. He is forewarned, and thus forearmed. He takes appropriate defensive action by holding the components firmly in the V. P. with his right hand or, as the case may be, with his left.

Other bijoonas result from a swelling or a cracking of the plaster in the wall behind the tank. This has the effect of moving the tank just enough out of alignment so that the seat and lid components, instead of resting at the peak of a 94-degree arc (the arc is 97 degrees in the Rocky Mountain states, of course, because of the altitude), now stand at a precarious 88 or 89. The slightest movement may send them crashing to the H. P. If one has had occasion in the past to trust a particular facility—if one has had no reason to suspect the burgeoning or late-blooming bijoona—its perfidy can be unnerving. Is nothing stable in a restless world? Such are the reflections that pass through a man's mind in the moment that an old John lid falls.

Most bijoonas, as the one in room 615, result simply from inattention on the part of the installer. He has his mind on other things. He fails to make the customary tests and checks. Zap! He bolts the seat in place. Wham! He slams it dlown. And so to the next assignment, leaving behind a contraption, innocent in appearance, waiting patiently to trap the unwary.

Correcting a bijoona is no easy task. In some cases, the problem will yield to a whittling down of the little rubber bumpers that separate lid from seat. In other instances, a powerful screwdriver may be employed as a lever in the hinge. This approach demands caution. Too much pressure may, indeed, correct the angle of inclination, arresting the trajectory from V. P. to H. P., but it may also result in an unpleasant realignment of the seat as a whole, which, when put to sedentary use, produces thereafter a rocking motion. This tends to divert a man's concentration and may cause giddiness in the young.

Better by far simply to scrap the thing altogether. A vetted bijoona, even though it may appear harmless, never can be wholly trusted again.

These few paragraphs by no means exhaust the subject. It is tempting to reminisce upon famous bijoonas one has known—the Monumental Oaken Bijoona of the Grove Park Inn at Asheville, North Carolina, discovered by this author in 1952, remains a cherished event. There have been interesting bijoonas in Wilkes-Barre, Portland, Sioux Falls, and an absolutely splendid S.T. in the Jayhawk Hotel in Topeka. The venerable Hilary Du Beau, a founder of the Society, some years ago recorded a Double Shaggy Purple S.T. in the boudoir of a lady in Butte. The committee approved five bonus points for the sighting, a superfluous award, to be sure, to a connoisseur who was even then a life master.

Membership in the Society demands only a modest fealty to the pursuit, together with an elementary grasp of Tarver's Classifications. The nonprofit Society, chartered under the laws of Virginia, imposes no dues. It survives— indeed, it flourishes—on the gratitude of the countless travelers it has served around the world.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
4/4/12 10:21 a.m.
neon4891 wrote:
rotard wrote: So, at what point is it acceptable to get the snip done without telling your wife?
IIRC, Doctors won't snip a married man without wife's consent.

Hmmm. Doesn't seem right. Ever hear of a doc asking the husband if it's OK to tie tubes? As someone else already posted: 'my body, my choice'.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
4/4/12 10:36 a.m.
Hmmm. Doesn't seem right. Ever hear of a doc asking the husband if it's OK to tie tubes? As someone else already posted: 'my body, my choice'.

I was in on the conversation when they were discussing tube tying with my wife. We both came to the decision to get them tied.

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