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Ian F
Ian F UberDork
5/11/12 10:01 a.m.

I haven't been carded for alcohol in years... but I usually buy in NJ rather than near home in PA.

The drug stores do swipe my DL for the OTC meds I buy (Mucenex D and Claritin D) from the pharmacy counter.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
5/11/12 10:03 a.m.
Ian F wrote: The drug stores do swipe my DL for the OTC meds I buy (Mucenex D and Claritin D) from the pharmacy counter.

What business do you have with allergy medication? You a tweeker, son? You cookin' up some meth in your car ain't ya?

Ian F
Ian F UberDork
5/11/12 11:20 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: What business do you have with allergy medication? You a tweeker, son? You cookin' up some meth in your car ain't ya?

Yep. I've been looking for new and exciting ways to blow myself up...

Of course, if I don't reno my house soon, it'll get raided for looking like a crack house...

Mitchell
Mitchell SuperDork
5/11/12 11:56 a.m.
skruffy wrote: Don't take this stupid law out on the clerks, they don't have any control. A friend worked at a carry out for minimum wage while he was between jobs a few years ago. The local sheriff was doing a under cover thing with a girl that was about 5 days from turning 21. She came in on a day where he was running the store by himself and was totally backed up with food orders and stuff. After she walks out with the beer a cop walked in and shut the place down. His fine was over $600, the store's fine was MUCH more. He had to borrow money from me that month just to pay his rent, they hit him for more than two weeks pay. He carded EVERYONE after that.

It's not so much the local sheriff that's the problem, but rather the ATF. They perform sting operations all the time. They just have to find a balding 20 year old who has smoked since he was 11; he'll easily look 30. The fines are expensive, but losing a liquor license is much, much more expensive.

How do retailers ensure that their employees do not cost them upteen thousands of dollars? In many cases, not carding someone who looks under x years of age is a policy violation resulting in automatic termination, regardless of tenure, and regardless of whether the customer is of age or not.

Voters wanted alcohol to be more inaccessible for minors, and our modern system is the result.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
5/11/12 12:13 p.m.

Just my $.02

We worry way too much about the freedom they’re not taking, and aren't concerned enough about the freedom we're giving away. Gotta be careful. Keeping government out of your life really has to mean keeping government out of everyone's lives. I've never seen more intrusive government initiatives as I've seen in the last several years, and every one of them was voted on and approved by voters. Way more scarry to me than any tin-foil hat problem that doesn't exist.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UberDork
5/11/12 12:24 p.m.

I also think that people give corporations a free pass too often. Remember, whatever they have, the government can get, and employers have much easier access to info from data mining companies than to law enforcement/government networks...

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
5/11/12 12:31 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: I also think that people give corporations a free pass too often. Remember, whatever they have, the government can get, and employers have much easier access to info from data mining companies than to law enforcement/government networks...

No doubt. Been some pretty scarry moves on that front lately too.

integraguy
integraguy UltraDork
5/11/12 1:05 p.m.

In Tn. they card you for wine and hard liquor, but if you are just buying beer you need only look like you are over 21. It's one of many stupid loopholes legislators in that state put in place.

BTW, if you think "big brother" is REALLY watching you...take a few hours and sit through a few episodes of the series MI5. I saw these on my local PBS a few YEARS ago, and was amazed at all the different cameras that are under police control in the U.K.....and the U.S. is not that far behind them.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
5/11/12 1:26 p.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: It's Alberta, you can still get drunk and fall down in a field somewhere without needing ID.

True, if you aren't drinking and partying in random farmers fields by the age of 16, you are doing something wrong here

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
5/11/12 1:43 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
Trans_Maro wrote: It's Alberta, you can still get drunk and fall down in a field somewhere without needing ID.
True, if you aren't drinking and partying in random farmers fields by the age of 16, you are doing something wrong here

16 is over the hill. Half the fire company and even the Police Chief are banging drunk 15yr olds around these parts. http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/police-chief-s-arrest-on-sex-charge-shocks-borough-1.1313837#axzz1uaWN76lN

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
5/11/12 1:55 p.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

I'll see your horny Police Chief and raise you a Sheriff trading meth for sex with underage boys. Classy guy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57409205-504083/ex-colo-sheriff-patrick-sullivan-pleads-guilty-in-meth-for-sex-case/

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/11/12 3:19 p.m.

Wow. Down here cops don't cook meth with underage boys, they just shoot mayors. http://www.live5news.com/story/15444454/cottageville-cop-who-killed-former-mayor-laid-off

On topic: I went to Slowe's this AM, the girl wanted to know if I was going to use my Slowe's Rewards card, I allowed as I didn't have one. She started the spiel, I just raised a finger to stop her and said (pleasantly, she's just doing her job) that I didn't want one because I get too much poop in my inbox already. She then asked for my phone number. For $8 worth of caulk. Nope, no phone number either.

I was told at another store that giving them my phone number meant I could easily return stuff. I pointed to the sign which said 'receipt required for returns' and said 'that sign says nothing about a phone number being required', again nicely. Nope, didn't give them a phone number.

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