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Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson SuperDork
10/11/12 2:44 p.m.

AAgghh, I just realized I’ve been suckered into a pointless debate. This is exactly the same as arguing politics. Both sides know they are right and will not be able to do anything to convince the other side they are wrong. I quit this thread. .

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Except commenting on the mini bikini

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UberDork
10/11/12 2:46 p.m.
tuna55 wrote: Airbags are only regulated to protect unbelted passengers in this country.

Where are you guys getting this idea?

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/11/12 3:08 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: AAgghh, I just realized I’ve been suckered into a pointless debate. This is exactly the same as arguing politics. Both sides know they are right and will not be able to do anything to convince the other side they are wrong. I quit this thread. . . . . Except commenting on the mini bikini

Funbags > airbags.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/11/12 3:09 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote:
tuna55 wrote: Airbags are only regulated to protect unbelted passengers in this country.
Where are you guys getting this idea?

I quoted it, FMVSS 208.

dculberson
dculberson SuperDork
10/11/12 4:10 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Ever notice that on a lot of cars when you open the drivers' door the odometer lights up, displays the mileage? Ever wonder why? Some time back an insurance adjuster was looking at a car which had been involved in an accident. He leaned in and turned the ignition switch on to get the mileage. For some reason this set off the drivers' air bag which had the unfortunate side effect of killing him almost instantly. I'm hard pressed to see how a decently rigid crash structure combined with properly placed padding would kill someone when they turned the ignition on.

I've never seen any car but a rental that has the light-up odometer. And I think the reasoning there is pretty clear, so they can check the mileage when checking in cars while avoiding having to have the keys on them.

I don't actually think your anecdote about the insurance adjuster is true. But even if it was, it's an anecdote, a single point of data that should go in a column of millions.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/11/12 4:42 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote: Ever notice that on a lot of cars when you open the drivers' door the odometer lights up, displays the mileage? Ever wonder why? Some time back an insurance adjuster was looking at a car which had been involved in an accident. He leaned in and turned the ignition switch on to get the mileage. For some reason this set off the drivers' air bag which had the unfortunate side effect of killing him almost instantly. I'm hard pressed to see how a decently rigid crash structure combined with properly placed padding would kill someone when they turned the ignition on.
I've never seen any car but a rental that has the light-up odometer. And I think the reasoning there is pretty clear, so they can check the mileage when checking in cars while avoiding having to have the keys on them. I don't actually think your anecdote about the insurance adjuster is true. But even if it was, it's an anecdote, a single point of data that should go in a column of millions.

Nope, go back and look again. It's not just rentals. I work at a Chrysler dealership and everything we see after ~1999 or so does that. If it's an LCD type, they don't light up but the numbers do come on.

The guy who got killed probably wouldn't think of himself as a 'single point of data'.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
10/11/12 5:08 p.m.
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