ClearWaterMS
ClearWaterMS Reader
3/27/24 1:31 p.m.

to me the idea of a cannonball run is inherently dangerous and the value of going as fast as possible on public roads for an extended period of time is simply not a good idea and should be actively discouraged.  

However the idea of trying to go coast to coast as fast as possible has captivated people for generations.  

So my thought is (and i'll never do this) why not offer an electric only cannon ball run.  You could have classes on stock vs modified or battery size.  You would reward planning, driving efficiently, demonstrate the ability to safely drive coast to coast in an electric car.  While people would still speed, excessive speeding reduces efficiency and considering recharge times are quite long, miles per kwH considering recharging becomes a key skill to successfully win.

this is purely a thought exercise;

What car would you choose?  How would you modify it? What strategy would you take should you be trying to plan it?

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/27/24 1:37 p.m.

Plenty of people have done it. I think the current electric record is around 41 hours? If you search Youtube, several channels have made their own attempts in various Teslas, Lucids, and Taycans.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/27/24 1:40 p.m.

Per wikipedia, it's been done several times.

Electric vehicle record[edit]

In 1968, the Great Transcontinental Electric Car Race was held between student groups at Caltech and MIT.[46][47] The Caltech team, led by EV pioneer Wally Rippel, converted a 1958 VW Microbus powered by lead cobalt batteries from Electric Fuel Propulsion Corporation of Detroit. The MIT team converted a 1968 Chevrolet Corvair powered by NiCad batteries. The MIT team raced from Cambridge, Massachusetts, to Pasadena, California, while the Caltech team raced the opposite direction. A network of 54 charging locations was set up along the 3,311-mile (5,329 km) route, spaced 21 to 95 miles (34 to 153 km) apart.[48] The race began on August 26, 1968, and ended on September 4. Although the MIT team reached Pasadena first, they were towed part of the way. After assessing penalty points, Caltech was declared the winner with a corrected time of 210 hours 3 minutes.[49]

With the introduction of long-range EVs, such as the Tesla Roadster (2008) and, in particular, the Tesla Model S, coast-to-coast travel became more feasible. In January 2014, Tesla Motors completed the first coast-to-coast corridor in their supercharging network for the Model S. A team of 15 from Tesla Motors completed a 3,427-mile (5,515 km) route from Los Angeles to New York City run in 76 hours, 5 minutes. (Time included 60 hours, 8 minutes driving, and 15 hours, 57 minutes charging.)[50] In July 2014, a team from Edmunds completed a slightly shorter 3,331.9-mile route in 67 hours, 21 minutes. (Time included 52 hours, 41 minutes driving, and 14 hours, 40 minutes charging.)[51]

Carl J. Reese and co-drivers Rodney Hawk and Deena Mastracci took advantage of a newly opened corridor on Interstate 70 to drive the 3,011-mile (4,846 km) route from the City Hall in Los Angeles to the City Hall in New York City in 58 hours and 55 minutes during April 16–19, 2015, a new record for EVs in a 2015 Tesla Model S P85D. The drivers stopped 24 times for electric charging, with a total charge time of 12 hours 48 minutes. As proof, Reese presented 16 documents notarized on both ends, identifying drivers and three eyewitnesses: Matt Nordenstrom, Johnnie Oberg Jr., and Anthony Alvarado. Complete GPS logs recorded by GPSInsight (a fleet tracking company) were sent to Jalopnik and the Guinness Book of World Records. GPSInsight provided GPS tracking equipment to the team to verify the event.[52]

On October 18–21, 2015, Deena Mastracci and Reese were joined by Alex Roy. They set a new record for an LA–NYC run in an electric vehicle with a total time of 57 hours, 48 minutes.[53]

On August 24–27, 2016, the LA–NYC record was broken again by a team comprising Alex Roy, Righthook CEO Warren Ahner, and StreetWars founder Franz Aliquo, who completed the run in 55 hours flat in a 2016 Tesla Model S 90D.[54] GPS logs were recorded by US Fleet Tracking, and Comma.AI's Chffr data logger, and data was shared with The Drive.[55]

In December 2017, with an early-production Tesla Model 3, which are delivered to California-based customers only, Alex Roy and co-driver Dan Zorrilla broke the eastbound Electric Cannonball Run record again, driving 2,860 miles (4,600 km) from the Portofino Inn to the Red Ball Garage in 50 hours and 16 minutes.[56] Their drive took place December 28–31 of 2017. GPS data was captured using the GPS Tracks application, and video evidence was shared on YouTube.[57]

In July 2019 a family team of Robin Jedi Thomsen, and her parents Lars Thomsen and Betty Legler set a record of 48 hours 10 minutes driving westbound for 2,835 miles (4,562 km) in a Tesla Model 3 Long Range between July 12 and 14, 2019.[58]

In August 2019, Kyle Conner and Matthew Davis set a record of 45 hours and 16 minutes driving westbound from New York City to Los Angeles in a Tesla Model 3 Long Range which had been modified, including lowering the car for better aerodynamics.[59]

At the end of 2020, Kyle Conner, Drew Peterson and Tijmen Schreur lowered the EV record to 44:26 despite winter conditions in an Out of Spec Motoring Porsche Taycan with the large battery, aerodynamic wheels, and massaging seats, using Electrify America CCS chargers with up to 350 kW.[60][61]

In October 2021, the EV record was broken twice in the same rented 2021 Tesla Model S Long Range.[62] The first drive, from Los Angeles to New York City, by Ryan Levenson and Will Wood, lowered the EV record to 42:52.[63] The second drive occurred on October 22, 2021, leaving from the Red Ball Garage in Manhattan at 11:00 am and arriving at the Portifino Inn in Redondo Beach, CA 42 hours, 17 minutes later. The second drive was piloted by a driver team of Ryan Levenson and Josh Allan. The only modification made to the stock Tesla was to replace the factory 21-inch wheels with the more efficient Tesla 19-inch wheels and to over-inflate the tire pressure to 47 psi (320 kPa; 3.2 bar) for the second drive.[64]

In April 2023, Kyle Conner attempted another record with the Out of Spec Motoring team, using a Lucid Air. This time the trip ended in 44 hours 32 minutes, which does not set a new record. However, their lead car Polestar 1, driven by Alyssa Zupan, set a new plug-in hybrid record with 45 hours and 38 minutes.[65]

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
3/27/24 5:38 p.m.

Google maps quotes the trip at roughly 41 hours nonstop, so if the record is under 43hr we're already past the territory where this could be considered "driving safely" - at least to the extent that it could be some kind of public, sanctioned event.

travellering
travellering Dork
3/27/24 9:53 p.m.

Probably wouldn't be safe from the other end of the speed spectrum, but I would love to see one of the hyper-efficient solar races try to go non-stop cross country.  No fuelling, just like an F1 race, right?

KyAllroad
KyAllroad MegaDork
3/28/24 8:32 a.m.

At least one of the recent cannonball events was run using cars with a maximum of 100 hp.  That certainly limits the top speeds people run.

 

I'm kind of surprised a very wealthy person hasn't taken it on as a movie production type of problem.  Simply "rent" the section of highway needed to run as fast as possible.  A small army of production assistants organizing when on ramps are to be closed and law enforcement officials paid to control traffic.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
3/28/24 8:56 a.m.
KyAllroad said:

I'm kind of surprised a very wealthy person hasn't taken it on as a movie production type of problem.  Simply "rent" the section of highway needed to run as fast as possible.  A small army of production assistants organizing when on ramps are to be closed and law enforcement officials paid to control traffic.

I believe that is sort of how the Texas Mile event is run. Participants pay "speeding tickets" as a sort of charity donation.   Not as difficult to do out west where there are plenty of highway sections that go for miles between exits or intersections. 

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