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bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/4/22 4:24 p.m.
adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/4/22 5:00 p.m.

Does amazon deliver eggs? lol

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 5:23 p.m.

That may be the stupidest thing I've read in a while. 

Do they really think it will affect him at all?

News flash...some poor hourly wage stiff will get to clean it up and Bezos won't even notice the cost because he made that much money in .000987 seconds. 

 

You want to show Bezos, beat him at his own game.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
2/4/22 5:26 p.m.
Toyman! said:

That may be the stupidest thing I've read in a while. 

Do they really think it will affect him at all?

News flash...some poor hourly wage stiff will get to clean it up and Bezos won't even notice the cost because he made that much money in .000987 seconds. 

Not only that, but it isn't even Bezos directly doing this. It is the Yacht builder. They could have told him no, they can't build a yacht that big, but they said they can do it and get it out. It isn't like he just decided he wanted to go to this place that would require moving the bridge, it will be a one-time thing, and he's paying for it. 

Clickbait headline readers gonna read clickbait headlines though.

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/4/22 5:36 p.m.

I just want to throw eggs at a boat. 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa PowerDork
2/4/22 6:23 p.m.

If Bezos can afford to dismantle a damn bridge for his penis extension/hair compensation, he can afford to pay his god damned taxes.

berkeleying jackass.

Schmidlap
Schmidlap HalfDork
2/4/22 6:23 p.m.

I don't understand how people can be so stupid.  They're pissed because an "historic" bridge needs to have part TEMPORARILY removed so that a ship that was just built in their city can sail out to sea.  The bridge will be restored immediately after the ship sails through and all costs of the bridge work will be covered by the yacht company.  Instead of being happy that the yacht is bringing $500 million worth of business to their city, they're going to throw eggs at it?  What happens when the yacht company says "screw this, we're moving to a friendlier city, one that respects the hard work we do"?  I assume there will be egg throwing at the mayor for allowing jobs to leave the city.

I get it, it's not really about the bridge, it's people who are jealous that someone else has a lot more money than they do, something else I don't understand.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa PowerDork
2/4/22 6:36 p.m.
Schmidlap said:

I don't understand how people can be so stupid.  They're pissed because an "historic" bridge needs to have part TEMPORARILY removed so that a ship that was just built in their city can sail out to sea.  The bridge will be restored immediately after the ship sails through and all costs of the bridge work will be covered by the yacht company.  Instead of being happy that the yacht is bringing $500 million worth of business to their city, they're going to throw eggs at it?  What happens when the yacht company says "screw this, we're moving to a friendlier city, one that respects the hard work we do"?  I assume there will be egg throwing at the mayor for allowing jobs to leave the city.

I get it, it's not really about the bridge, it's people who are jealous that someone else has a lot more money than they do, something else I don't understand.

The last time the bridge was dismantled was for restoration.  At that point the city promised its residents that it wouldn't be taken down again.  Now it's being taken down for some rich twat.  Also, berkeley the company making the boat.  They knew they couldn't build it without taking the bridge apart.  They are as much at fault as Bezos.

As for being jealous of Bezos, berkeley nah.  My wife loves me and I have my hair.  I'm pissed that he has employees dying in his warehouses with no one in management giving a E36 M3.  I'm pissed that he doesn't pay taxes.  I'm pissed that my taxes subsidize his E36 M3ty pay, E36 M3ty pay that is so bad that thousands of his employees are on assistance.

No billionaire, not one single berkeleying one, got to that point by solely moral means.  They all berkeleyed someone over to get there.

berkeley Bezos.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 6:37 p.m.

In reply to Mr_Asa :

Are you suggesting he doesn't pay exactly what he is required to pay by law? 

 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa PowerDork
2/4/22 6:43 p.m.
Toyman! said:

In reply to Mr_Asa :

Are you suggesting he doesn't pay exactly what he is required to pay by law? 

I'm suggesting nothing.  He uses loopholes within the laws in order to pay little to no taxes.  At multiple points in the past couple decades paying 0%.  This is fact.
This is also berkeleyery and should not be allowed.

Eat the rich.

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/4/22 6:47 p.m.

People really hate rich people for being rich lol. Funny how y'all pick and choose who to hate and who to support because of what you know from media. Just know that you don't know anything about your heroes either. Though a lot of people choose to ignore other things. 

Dude made himself uber rich. Get over it. 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/4/22 6:48 p.m.

I don't know the guy from a bag of hammers so I can't say if he is good or bad. I will say that I think the system is broke. The guy is currently worth 176 Billion dollars. Think on that for a minute. Who the berkeley needs or deserves that much money? If he was getting 5% interest on that he would make $24 Million a day on that. Yep you read that right. Meanwhile people get to fight over their pauper incomes. In the grand scheme it doesn't matter if that is $15, $25 or $75 an hour. It all pales in comparison. His net worth just illustrates the greed of humanity. 
So where is the line? How much is too much? I don't know but I know worths that start with a B are silly. I used to personally work for a Billionaire, he started with nothing, I won't begrudge him for being fabulously wealthy but he just had so much money it was impossible for him or his offspring to spend it. My sister works directly for a billionaire, he has a rock collection outside of his office that is worth more than I will ever be. I would bet money that the darn shelves that the collection sit on cost more than any person on this board makes in a year. 
it all just seems like too much to me. 

wae
wae PowerDork
2/4/22 6:56 p.m.

I mean, I'm going to deduct the money that I gave to the church on my taxes, so am I using a loophole to pay less in taxes?  I kind of think of that as following the rules as they are written.  If you're not doing that you are either a moron who is paying more than is legally required or a criminal who is violating the law via tax evasion.  As long as you're not in that second category, I don't see what the problem is.  If you think the tax law is badly written and things that are legal should not be, then that's a different discussion.  But getting mad at someone for following the rules and not going to jail over it would be like being pissed off at me because I follow the loophole in the law and don't get a ticket for running a red light because I make a full stop before turning right on red when the traffic is clear.

As far as the bridge is concerned, I fail to see how throwing eggs at it will solve anything or make any sort of statement that would have any impact or effect on anything.  I mean do you really think that Bezos would give a damn?  He'll pay someone to clean it up and go about his day.  Hell, I'd be surprised if he was even in town on the day that they transit out of the bay or river or whatever. 

In reply to NY Nick :

Who *needs* that much? IDK.

who *deserves* that much? anyone who earns it.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 7:13 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:
Toyman! said:

In reply to Mr_Asa :

Are you suggesting he doesn't pay exactly what he is required to pay by law? 

I'm suggesting nothing.  He uses loopholes within the laws in order to pay little to no taxes.  At multiple points in the past couple decades paying 0%.  This is fact.
This is also berkeleyery and should not be allowed.

If you aren't doing the same, shame on you.

I offset damn near 90% of my gross income. Why would he not do the same. There are 10000s of business owners that do the same.

And on the bad years where you make no income, you pay no taxes.

That's the way the system works. The government tries to steal it. I do all I can to keep as much as possible. 

It's called being smart with your money. 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/4/22 7:14 p.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :

And their is the question. How much if that did he "earn" and how much of it is taken off the hides of his own workforce and that of his customer base. Greed is limitless and once you are in the lead you have resources and power to take from the little players. 
Doea a drug lord "earn" that money?

Does a mafia boss "earn" that money?

Does a prince of an oil rich nation "earn" that money? 

You can argue the legality of my examples and I am not saying Bezos (or Zuckerberg or any other billionaire) is doing or has done anything illegal I am saying when is enough enough? He got that big piece of the pie and he could have just given his people a bigger bite but choose not to. 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 7:15 p.m.

Wealth is not a finite resource. Just because Bezos has his doesn't mean you get less. 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/4/22 7:27 p.m.

In reply to Toyman! :

It's not about me it's about society as a whole. In a small sense wealth is not finite but there are only so many resources on this planet so in the grand scheme I would argue that wealth is limited. 

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/4/22 7:30 p.m.
yupididit said:

People really hate rich people for being rich lol. Funny how y'all pick and choose who to hate and who to support because of what you know from media. Just know that you don't know anything about your heroes either. Though a lot of people choose to ignore other things. 

Dude made himself uber rich. Get over it. 

Right on man!

I've noticed that people are much quicker to resent rich business people than rich athletes or celebrities.

Wealth isn't finite...there is absolutely nothing stopping us from all being billionaires...Jeff Bezos isn't hording anybody's money...he brought his money into existence.

Oh, and in terms of him not paying enough taxes...there's no evidence that he has broken the law so lobby for changing the law rather than hating on him.

I, for one, love the guy...I bought $3,000 of Amazon stock about 25 years ago and it's worth well over $100,000 today plus Amazon Prime is really neat-o. 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones Dork
2/4/22 7:32 p.m.
NY Nick said:

 I would bet money that the darn shelves that the collection sit on cost more than any person on this board makes in a year. 

You'd be surprised at what some people on this board make. There are some $1M a year plus people here. 

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/4/22 7:33 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NY Nick :

Who *needs* that much? IDK.

who *deserves* that much? anyone who earns it.

Ok. Who deserves that much. Interesting question. That's more than hospitals, that's more than a handful of entire countries. What could anyone do to deserve that sort of money? Cure cancer? Cure aids? Create a genetically perfect human? Feed the entire world, which would by all official estimates cost less than a net worth that high? 

Or just sell books to people at the right time, make some handsome insider trades, then pay to have the tax law changed so that ONE of your companies gets a $150 million REFUND on $11 billion in income?

I firmly believe there should be a maximum wage. There is NOTHING  ANYONE  could do that is worth $10s of thousands of dollars per minute. Not those scumberkeley sad sack insurance company executives making millions in bonuses by denying millions in lifesaving medical care, not the politician owning wall street vajajays that gamble with the world's retirement funds and investments in a daily basis, and certainly not any scum sucking sack of E36 M3 that literally works their employees to death and pays them so little that the taxpayer has to pickup the slack just so the employees can eat and keep s roof over their heads. 

We had a group of people who regularly worked their employees to death. That didn't end well for the employers if I remember correctly.

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/4/22 7:34 p.m.
NY Nick said:

In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :

And their is the question. How much if that did he "earn" and how much of it is taken off the hides of his own workforce and that of his customer base. Greed is limitless and once you are in the lead you have resources and power to take from the little players. 
Doea a drug lord "earn" that money?

Does a mafia boss "earn" that money?

Does a prince of an oil rich nation "earn" that money? 

You can argue the legality of my examples and I am not saying Bezos (or Zuckerberg or any other billionaire) is doing or has done anything illegal I am saying when is enough enough? He got that big piece of the pie and he could have just given his people a bigger bite but choose not to. 

 

Did colonizers earn anything they've acquired on this land and many others and thus passed on to their children and so on? Yet you celebrate it. 

He isn't stopping his employees from leaving and earning their own piece of this pie.

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/4/22 7:38 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

I don't actually. On Columbus Day my family celebrates Indigenous People and learn about Native American culture. 
I understand the points of the opposite side on this. I just don't feel that way. 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 7:40 p.m.

In reply to NY Nick :

Tell Bezos, Musk, and the rest of the richy riches that the solar system is their oyster. Allow them to stake claims like the US did during the expansion of the West, and resources won't be a problem anymore.

Do you really think those guys are building rockets as proof of their dick size. Not hardly. They have plans inside of plans and they are the best chance we have of getting into space. If I was king of the world I would keep them keep all of their money. They certainly put it to better use than the government does. 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
2/4/22 7:43 p.m.

In 2018, Bezos was hailed as a hero when he raised the minimum wage at Amazon to $15 per hour, LONG before other companies and governments were pushing for it. Now he's an evil greedy ass because he doesn't give MORE to his employees?

He pays the taxes he's supposed to. If we don't like it, we should change the tax code, and blame our partisan legislators (who we voted for) who created it. 
 

We are quick to applaud anyone who finds loopholes in racing. Heck, you might even get a rule named after you. But a dude gets rich because he played by the rules and used the loopholes we created, and we want to demonize him. 

I look for tax breaks every single time I file my taxes, and I don't know anyone who doesn't.

 

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