To bail or not to bail, THAT is the question.

When the last gen Riviera came out, we got a BUNCH of them which had antifreeze in the oil, washer jug etc at PDI. We found out later that the Orion plant had hired a couple of college kids (at something like $18/hr) to do nothing but put the fluids at the correct level as the cars were ready to roll out of the plant. They had those bulk dispensers for oil, water, tranny fluid, brake fluid, etc but these idiots just grabbed the first one and used it to fill every reservoir that was low and the first one happened to be antifreeze. My Buick rep said they did not lose their jobs, either.

SVreX wrote: You forgot one industry- steel. We were once the world leader in steel. Now there is NO US steel industry.

Yes there is. I've been working on some of their permits.

What didn't survive was massive bloated individual corporations. Beth Steel died. The facilities were picked up by smaller companies who brought the steel industry back to profitabilty with a greater number of smaller companies.

foxtrapper wrote: The facilities were picked up by smaller companies who brought the steel industry back to profitabilty with a greater number of smaller companies.

Hmmmmmmmm........... ;)

Dang if that doesn't sound like something else posted on this thread.

foxtrapper wrote:

SVreX wrote: You forgot one industry- steel. We were once the world leader in steel. Now there is NO US steel industry.

Yes there is. I've been working on some of their permits. What didn't survive was massive bloated individual corporations. Beth Steel died. The facilities were picked up by smaller companies who brought the steel industry back to profitabilty with a greater number of smaller companies.

Which is EXACTLY what should happen to the big automakers.

Jensenman wrote: Dang if that doesn't sound like something else posted on this thread.

I swear, I didn't see your reply when I posted.

Dinosaurs were too big. They failed.

Jensenman wrote: There is still a US steel industry, it's just much smaller than it used to be. Check out http://www.nucor.com/index.aspx A lot of the steel used in US cars comes from overseas.

I have been to one of the Nucor plants (Holly Hill, SC around Charleston). It looked like it was a really well-run operation.

belteshazzar wrote: Dinosaurs were too big. They failed.

Only because the government wasn't there to save them!

Not true, from what I understand the Dinosaurs RULED way back then!

not the mama!