Cotton wrote:Toyman01 wrote: Toyota=GM?No they aren't. GM actually makes performance cars.
That was awesome.
Cotton wrote:Toyman01 wrote: Toyota=GM?No they aren't. GM actually makes performance cars.
That was awesome.
i'm not a GM fan but i must agree. where's the supra? celica? mr2? i can't wait for that FT86. i hope its good.
Toyota is perpetually trying to copy GM it just that it lags GM by about 20 years.
So modern Toyota = 1980's GM
Fat ,uninspiring, boaring, slow, unreliable, crapmobiles.
^^^^^
Interesting and are the Korean Car Companies where Toyota was during the '80's?
Capt Slow wrote: Toyota is perpetually trying to copy GM it just that it lags GM by about 20 years. So modern Toyota = 1980's GM Fat ,uninspiring, boaring, slow, unreliable, crapmobiles.
Something I've been saying for quite sometime. And now that they're the #1 automaker, they get to be the crappiest as well.
Say what you want about GM in the 80s, but man I still want an Iroc Z.
^ I want a Formula 350 Firebird with a manual swap please.
jrw1621 wrote: ^^^^^ ..... are the Korean Car Companies where Toyota was during the '80's?
Nope; as the '80's progressed the corporate culture changed and the bean-counter's/marketer's influence began to edge-out the enthusiastic engineering.
The Koreans are emulating Honda of the '80's, and reaping the benefits of good engineering, good pricing, great value and fun. Value-retention will likely come along too, just like it did for Honda and Toyota.
The question is "how long does it last"?
oldsaw wrote: The Koreans are emulating Honda of the '80's, and reaping the benefits of good engineering, good pricing, great value and fun. Value-retention will likely come along too, just like it did for Honda and Toyota.
I'd agree with you except that the Koreans have not come up with some cool game changing engineering solution.
CVCC, their VTEC, the lean burn F/E cars.
While they are being very methodical in the improvements, it's just not with the handful of leading edge things that Honda does every once in a while.
Still, very solid cars, like you say.
Eric
jrw1621 wrote: ^^^^^ Interesting and are the Korean Car Companies where Toyota was during the '80's?
Who is where Datsun was in the seventies?
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