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carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
2/11/13 9:40 a.m.

It seems that Scotland is trying to secede from Great Britain AGAIN!

It didn't turn out so well for Scotland the last time so how can they think it will go any better this time.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/11/13 9:42 a.m.

That's nothing new, they're trying that every decade or so...

It did gain them a fair amount of self-governing already, so it is working for them.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/11/13 9:48 a.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: That's nothing new, they're trying that every decade or so... It did gain them a fair amount of self-governing already, so it is working for them.

What he said. I still don't understand how their economy will survive on its own though.

mtn
mtn PowerDork
2/11/13 10:02 a.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: That's nothing new, they're trying that every decade or so... It did gain them a fair amount of self-governing already, so it is working for them.
What he said. I still don't understand how their economy will survive on its own though.

Increased export of Kilts and Bagpipes?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/11/13 10:10 a.m.
mtn wrote:
93EXCivic wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: That's nothing new, they're trying that every decade or so... It did gain them a fair amount of self-governing already, so it is working for them.
What he said. I still don't understand how their economy will survive on its own though.
Increased export of Kilts and Bagpipes?

And sheep and scotch.

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
2/11/13 10:11 a.m.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
2/11/13 10:15 a.m.

I believe they have a Scotch-liquor based economy. They also dominate the sticky-tape market.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/11/13 10:17 a.m.

Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK.

If Nicaragua can survive as a country, why can't Scotland?

mtn
mtn PowerDork
2/11/13 10:26 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK.

England has London.

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition HalfDork
2/11/13 10:31 a.m.

Jeez, they gave 'em their darn rock back, what more do they want??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/11/13 10:34 a.m.
Basil Exposition wrote: Jeez, they gave 'em their darn rock back, what more do they want?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone

Stone of scone?

I felt pretty clever when I worked at a coffee shop and turned the day-old display into sconehenge. Yet somehow I knew google would be able to provide me with a variety of images of the same thing...

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
2/11/13 10:39 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK. If Nicaragua can survive as a country, why can't Scotland?

Cars, oil, beer plus London is one of the financial capitals of the world.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
2/11/13 10:47 a.m.

My dad was at least half Scottish and born/raised in the South, meaning he would wholeheartedly support secession..

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
2/11/13 10:55 a.m.

Funny how history has a way of repeating itself....

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
2/11/13 11:16 a.m.

I'm surprised England resists Scotland leaving because I'm sure it costs them more than they get in return. Have you been to Scotland? While I like it and think it's pretty in places, there's miles and miles of nothing but miles & miles.

And the land's not even good for farming or anything, plus the weather sucks.

02Pilot
02Pilot HalfDork
2/11/13 11:33 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: I'm surprised England resists Scotland leaving because I'm sure it costs them more than they get in return. Have you been to Scotland? While I like it and think it's pretty in places, there's miles and miles of nothing but miles & miles. And the land's not even good for farming or anything, plus the weather sucks.

To borrow from Prince Faisal (as portrayed by Alec Guinness) in Lawrence of Arabia: "The English have a great hunger for desolate places."

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/11/13 12:06 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
2/11/13 12:09 p.m.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/11/13 12:11 p.m.
yamaha wrote:

That's what got me thinking about the first half of my post!

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/11/13 12:20 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Javelin wrote: Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK. If Nicaragua can survive as a country, why can't Scotland?
Cars, oil, beer plus London is one of the financial capitals of the world.

You know where the oil is coming from, right? Pretty much all of the oil field servicing and oil extraction is done from Scotland, mostly Aberdeen. How much of a long term plan that is is debatable, given that the output seems to be at least stagnating.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
2/11/13 12:27 p.m.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/11/13 12:34 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: While I like it and think it's pretty in places, there's miles and miles of nothing but miles & miles. And the land's not even good for farming or anything, plus the weather sucks.

And lo, the Escort was invented, and it was Good.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/11/13 1:10 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: I'm surprised England resists Scotland leaving because I'm sure it costs them more than they get in return. Have you been to Scotland? While I like it and think it's pretty in places, there's miles and miles of nothing but miles & miles. And the land's not even good for farming or anything, plus the weather sucks.

jus primae noctis

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/11/13 1:17 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Javelin wrote: Yes, because England has a lot of exports of their own, like, er, um... Top Gear? I can't think of anything else made in the UK. If Nicaragua can survive as a country, why can't Scotland?
Cars, oil, beer plus London is one of the financial capitals of the world.

Boats make more money than cars, and Glasgow is still one of the shipbuilding heavyweights. Plus they have Scapa Flow. Scotch whiskey is one of their strongest exports. Edinburgh is also one of the financial centers of the world. The oil all comes out of Scotland's territorial waters and Aberdeen is the oil capital of the EU. "If Scotland became independent, it would hold 90% of the UK's current oil and gas reserves."

Not to mention the Scots pay more into the UK than they take back out. Britain has to be shaking in their boots.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/11/13 1:20 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: It seems that Scotland is trying to secede from Great Britain AGAIN!

"Again" would imply that they ever stopped trying to secede. Hell, even Wales likes to deny they are a part of the UK.

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