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pkingham (Forum Supporter)
pkingham (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/31/23 7:27 a.m.

In reply to RichardNZ :

20 years ago, I had a boss who said "The US is going metric inch by inch"

 

bentwrench
bentwrench UltraDork
3/31/23 2:01 p.m.

In reply to pkingham (Forum Supporter) :

The lumber industry will be a holdout as what is sold as a 2x4 isn't, or is depending on finish.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
3/31/23 2:28 p.m.
bentwrench said:

In reply to pkingham (Forum Supporter) :

The lumber industry will be a holdout as what is sold as a 2x4 isn't, or is depending on finish.

Since you brought it up, what the heck does a Metrican call a 2 by 4?

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/31/23 2:46 p.m.

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

The English construction workers i used to work with called them "4 be 2s"

RichardNZ
RichardNZ GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/31/23 4:58 p.m.

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

Kiwi's have traditionally called them 4 x 2 but generally now 100 x 50. Actual measurement for dressed timber 90 x 45.

Fun fact but it's only in the last 5 or so years that sheet materials slowly changed from 2440 x 1220 to 2400 x 1200.

Fasteners generally speaking are still in imperial lengths - 25, 32, 38 etc and lots of screws are still labelled by gauge - 6, 8 etc.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
3/31/23 5:06 p.m.

In reply to RichardNZ :

Thanks for that! 

Advan046
Advan046 UberDork
3/31/23 9:21 p.m.

Aren't 2x4s not actually 2 inch by 4 inch? So I never understand why we can't just start calling them A studs and 4 by 4s now called B studs. Etc. angrycheekycoolcheekylaugh

Or 50by100s ugh

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/31/23 9:57 p.m.

Can't you just call them 5,x10,s?

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
3/31/23 11:10 p.m.

It's been gone over multiple times, here and everywhere else on the internet.

A 2x4 is 2" x 4" fresh out of the sawmill, before it's turned into finished lumber.

It's the standard in construction lumber and has been for so long that changing it now would cause problems.

Kinda like the phone icon on your phone doesn't look like any phone we currently use but everyone knows "that's a phone".

Oapfu
Oapfu GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/31/23 11:42 p.m.
Advan046 said:

...So I never understand why we can't just start calling them A studs and 4 by 4s now called B studs. Etc. ...

It 'should' be done the same as ISO paper sizes.  If A0 starts off equiv to a standard sheet of plywood, beams would be like A5, posts would be A6, studs would be A7, furring strips would be A8...

North American paper sizes are rant-worthy on their own.  The most extreme utter stupidity is that there is no name for "1/4 of a letter-size page" (i.e. 4.25 x 5.5in).  In one case I ended up using "Japanese Postcard" size to get CrystalReports and a HP printer to work together.

RichardNZ
RichardNZ GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/1/23 12:02 a.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

Yep - only rough sawn is close to nominal. At one stage dressed timber was referred to as ex 100 x 50 but I haven't seen the ex used for a while.

JFW75
JFW75 New Reader
4/1/23 8:31 a.m.
volvoclearinghouse said:
 

The little threaded stud on the bottom of a camera is, AFAIK, still a whitworth thread. 

Camera mounts are 1/4"-20. Always have been.

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
4/1/23 10:47 p.m.

RichardNZ
RichardNZ GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/2/23 3:42 a.m.

NZ news media have discovered a conversion APP for their phones that converts any volume you feed in into "Olympic Swimming Pools".
Almost every recent story that involves reasonable volumes uses OSP's instead of any recognisable unit.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/2/23 9:21 a.m.
RichardNZ said:

NZ news media have discovered a conversion APP for their phones that converts any volume you feed in into "Olympic Swimming Pools".
Almost every recent story that involves reasonable volumes uses OSP's instead of any recognisable unit.

AIUI, "olympic swimming pool" only fully defines 2 dimensions (length and width), whereas depth simply has a minimum of 2 meters.

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
4/3/23 6:54 p.m.

Changed my furnace filter today. Looks like the furnace filter people and the lumber people are in cahoots. 

Oh noes, it's a conspiracy to confuse everyone! Run for the hills!

 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones SuperDork
4/3/23 9:15 p.m.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/4/23 8:53 p.m.

In reply to Steve_Jones :

What measurements do Satanists use?

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I don't have a punchline, just wondering.

 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
4/4/23 9:12 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Satan is the one who decided to put the alphabet in math.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones SuperDork
4/4/23 9:20 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Not sure how I would know? Weren't you debating that with Snowdoggie on the locked thread? Ask him :)

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/8/23 5:49 p.m.

I don't remember if it was ever brought up, but shouldn't we talking about metric sized tires on inch sized wheels on a car lovers forum? 295/50R15

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
4/8/23 6:07 p.m.

In reply to RichardNZ :

Me:  I'd like a Belgian Ale please

Server:  Regular or Tall?

Me:  How big is a Tall?

Server:  .0000001892704 Olympic Swimming Pools

Oapfu
Oapfu GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/8/23 7:26 p.m.
ProDarwin said:

In reply to RichardNZ :

Me:  I'd like a Belgian Ale please

Server:  Regular or Tall?

Me:  How big is a Tall?

Server:  .0000001892704 Olympic Swimming Pools

Tall glass, thin glass, schooner, vase, goblet, or pipet?

https://youtu.be/z4SQhEAlQ3I?t=1027

The "Vicar breakdown" sketch before "Lager" is also relevant to GRM.

https://youtu.be/z4SQhEAlQ3I?t=955

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