In reply to dculberson:
racism is just a set of beliefs..so its the same. If I believe a certain race is better than another, and force you to accommodate that belief, it sounds about the same as If I believe a food is better than another, then force you to accommodate that belief...where is the difference?
dculberson wrote:SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Not too long ago, I had eaten dinner at my inlaws and my SIL (who is vegan) was helping me clean up and I asked her to grab a stack of dirty plates and she said no because meat had been on them.Look at it a little differently: would this infuriate you if the person was Jewish and they refused to touch the plates because they had pork on them? I don't see why this is an issue, honestly. She wouldn't touch the plates with meat on them - that's her having boundaries and stating them clearly. That's not her forcing anything on you whatsoever. Like most things like this it comes down to fear of the other, she's different from you and any time she expresses that difference it frightens you. Your reaction turns to annoyance.
Well in my SILs case, I don't see it that way. And it has nothing to do with me being scared of change. She uses it as an excuse to not do something I think. By saying that you can't touch something because there was meat on it or in it or around it or within the vicinity of it gets annoying after a while to other folks who don't follow that lifestyle. She still lives in her parents house and when they eat, she eats at a different time, because they still eat meat. But when it's a "family meal" it becomes a clusterberkeley half the time. She can't clean up anything after dinner or she can't take out the trash. It's always something new.
Is it annoying? Hell yes. Does it mean I'm scared of change? No.
My SIL is also what I like to call a "Vegan Hypocrite". While she claims to be a Vegan, she still eats cheese and products with gelatin in it. She's more of a vegatarian but still claims to be vegan.
Sounds more like she's a lazy shiny happy person who pretends at veganism to be trendy.
4cylndrfury wrote: racism is just a set of beliefs..so its the same.
Now you are berkeleying on to something! Death to the onion! It is an evil weed that should be enslaved or rooted from the earth. The scallion is superior in all regards.
4cylndrfury wrote: In reply to dculberson: racism is just a set of beliefs..so its the same. If I believe a certain race is better than another, and force you to accommodate that belief, it sounds about the same as If I believe a food is better than another, then force you to accommodate that belief...where is the difference?
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SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote:dculberson wrote:Well in my SILs case, I don't see it that way. And it has nothing to do with me being scared of change. She uses it as an excuse to not do something I think. By saying that you can't touch something because there was meat on it or in it or around it or within the vicinity of it gets annoying after a while to other folks who don't follow that lifestyle. She still lives in her parents house and when they eat, she eats at a different time, because they still eat meat. But when it's a "family meal" it becomes a clusterberkeley half the time. She can't clean up anything after dinner or she can't take out the trash. It's always something new. Is it annoying? Hell yes. Does it mean I'm scared of change? No. My SIL is also what I like to call a "Vegan Hypocrite". While she claims to be a Vegan, she still eats cheese and products with gelatin in it. She's more of a vegatarian but still claims to be vegan.SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Not too long ago, I had eaten dinner at my inlaws and my SIL (who is vegan) was helping me clean up and I asked her to grab a stack of dirty plates and she said no because meat had been on them.Look at it a little differently: would this infuriate you if the person was Jewish and they refused to touch the plates because they had pork on them? I don't see why this is an issue, honestly. She wouldn't touch the plates with meat on them - that's her having boundaries and stating them clearly. That's not her forcing anything on you whatsoever. Like most things like this it comes down to fear of the other, she's different from you and any time she expresses that difference it frightens you. Your reaction turns to annoyance.
How old is she? She sounds to be about 16.
When my wife and I met, she was all but a vegetarian, barely ate anything animal-related. To be fair, it was mostly because she didn't much care for the taste of it, and also loosely for health reasons.
Since she discovered my cooking, she now eats just about anything (except beef, still doesn't like it, which doesn't bother me, I usually only eat it when we eat out, anyway) and I've learned how to make really good black bean burgers. Some days I don't eat any meat, some days I have it all 3 meals. We've both come to the conclusion that a varied diet is the best kind. Oh, and she's actually lost some weight since we got married (not that she needed to!). I never weigh myself and haven't been to a doctor in about 10 years, but my clothes still fit the same.
Also, raw milk, homemade cheese, and hen's-butt-fresh eggs are really, really tasty. Living in the country rocks.
My wife says she has been a picky eater since she was a child and I can accept that. What I hate is that there's always a problem with something.
My BIL became Hindu and he won't eat red meat anymore. When he started he asked me to prepare the chicken on a different surface and to make sure that I don't cook it on the same side of the grill as the red meat. I don't have a problem with that. But also, he's not an shiny happy person about it.
Okay, sister in law sounds like an shiny happy person.
@4cyl: Please, get off that horse because it's a really dorky looking horse with buck teeth and crossed eyes. It doesn't look good.
As long as vegans, people of religion, whatever group don't try to force their beliefs on me, I am cool with them. Once they try to convert me to their beliefs, that is when we have problems.
volvoclearinghouse said: Also, raw milk, homemade chee se, and hen's-butt-fresh eggs are really, really tasty. Living in the country rocks.
Not for long, what with the Feds cracking down on raw milk distributors.
Cause it's so unhealthy to eat things that aren't on the pre-approved govt list, ya know?
dculberson wrote: Okay, sister in law sounds like an shiny happy person. @4cyl: Please, get off that horse because it's a really dorky looking horse with buck teeth and crossed eyes. It doesn't look good.
Guess I'm an shiny happy person too, cuz I feel pretty much there same way. My family members have different habits and beliefs from me, but we accommodate EACH OTHER. If they don't accommodate me, I don't accommodate them.
My wife is vegan. She went from vegetatian to that. I have been a meat eater forever and she has never had an issue with it. She handles my meat. For her it was a dietary choice and she does reaserch a place before we go eat there. For example, the Olive Garden seems like a pretty safe bet, but everything has egg in it.
It sounds like SIL is bat e36 crazy. Or I am just fortunate that my wife does not force it on people.
Cole_Trickle wrote: She handles my meat.
Well I would hope so. 
Cole_Trickle wrote: My wife... She handles my meat.
Cole_Trickle wrote: She handles my meat.
I would hope so... [rimshot]
Sorry needed to lighten up the hostility in this here thread because the SIL is bat E36 M3 crazy, lazy, and a freeloader.
In reply to 93EXCivic:
I'm glad you're immature too.
Grizz wrote: Cause it's so unhealthy to eat things that aren't on the pre-approved govt list, ya know?
I think it was the lack of a polio vac in the 40 & 50's that led to that rule. It was probably a good idea at the time and it still works for salmonilla.
Three out of 10000 forum members approve of her handling your meat.
Grizz wrote:volvoclearinghouse said: Also, raw milk, homemade chee se, and hen's-butt-fresh eggs are really, really tasty. Living in the country rocks.Not for long, what with the Feds cracking down on raw milk distributors. Cause it's so unhealthy to eat things that aren't on the pre-approved govt list, ya know?
Luckily, we live in SC, and if there's one state that has a history of being the first to Secede, its South Carolina.
Our raw milk "distributor" is a 70-year-old farmer who sells his product out of a beat-up refrigerator in his milk shack. I've watched him and his sons milk the cows. They don't particularly strike me as the type of folk who give a rat's behind what the gubmint tells them to do.
Similar situation for the fellow we buy our eggs from.
N Sperlo wrote: Three out of 10000 forum members approve of her handling your meat.
Haha. I do too!
93EXCivic wrote: As long as vegans, people of religion, whatever group don't try to force their beliefs on me, I am cool with them. Once they try to convert me to their beliefs, that is when we have problems.
My stance as well. I don't care what you are into as long as it doesn't disrupt what I do or other people for that matter. I don't mind catering to someone's different choice either. But for berkeleys sake, don't try to get me to do what you love to do. I HATE when people ask me to try something that I don't want to like its a berkeleying game they have to win or that its funny or something. I am a picky eater and not religious. Hey, if someone wants to say grace before we eat, cool, I will sit there with my mouth shut and my sandwich clamps off my food until they are done. And don't ask me 5 times if I will have some E36 M3 I don't want and that I don't know what I am missing.
Carry on..
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
Kinda, doesn't mean government goons can threaten an Amish guy with jail time and fines until he stops selling MILK(DUN DUN DUNNNNNN) to suburbanites.
Grizz wrote: In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker: Kinda, doesn't mean government goons can threaten an Amish guy with jail time and fines until he stops selling MILK(DUN DUN DUNNNNNN) to suburbanites.
It might make sense if it were consistently applied to anything harmful but my kids drank right from a human breast and I assure you my wife has a worse diet than any organic free range dairy cow.
Gotta run, I'm having sushi for lunch today.
OMG, U GON DIE
I could go for some sushi, but closest place I can think of is a Chinese buffet, and that stuff will kill you.
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