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Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
1/31/12 9:27 a.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: in reply to GPS: gunt is one of my most favorite words ever.

It's not one of my most favourite places.

In reply to mad_machine:

I've noticed that too

They'll eat a lot of things you wouldn't think of, but they love just about anything red. The hens have associated my wife with food, and they come running when she calls them.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro Dork
1/31/12 9:29 a.m.

I won't eat anything that can't feel pain.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
1/31/12 9:31 a.m.
ThePhranc wrote: Is it me or are mass produced commercial eggs getting thinner shells but thicker membranes on the inside? Use to be a time you cracked an egg and it cracked now I have to crack it and them split it open.

How does this work? I've noticed the exact same thing, I swear half of the eggs I use don't crack even when I give them a good HARD whack, and I end up making a mess. Weird!

Trans_Maro wrote: The parents of the folks I work for own one of the largest ranches in B.C. Where are the mad cows in Canada exactly?

There was a scare what, 5+ years ago? A DECADE ago? lulz

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro Dork
1/31/12 9:37 a.m.

Funny, I buy free-range eggs for that reason.

The free-range taste way better, the yolk is almost orange and stands up higher and the shell is thicker than the generic eggs.

I haven't done any testing, nor have I stayed at a holiday inn but they have to be better for you, the egg just looks and tastes far better.

Shawn

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
1/31/12 9:42 a.m.

I bet it's mostly because they are fresher. If you buy them in the store, they're at least a few weeks old, and those are exactly the differences you'll see. Although allowing them to eat bugs, etc. should probably have some effect on the egg, but how much, who knows?

fasted58
fasted58 SuperDork
1/31/12 9:53 a.m.

k, so an egg is not meat

and chicken is meat

but still... which came first?

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/31/12 10:00 a.m.

The T-Rex

fasted58 wrote: k, so an egg is not meat and chicken is meat but still... which came first?
fasted58
fasted58 SuperDork
1/31/12 10:03 a.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

now ya just complicated the berkeley outta it

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
1/31/12 10:47 a.m.

I purchase Free Range Europas. As they are found in the wild. You know, last ran 30 years ago, interior rotted to nothing, frame of Swiss cheese structure, head in the boot or missing altogether.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/31/12 11:44 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: I purchase Free Range Europas. As they are found in the wild. You know, last ran 30 years ago, interior rotted to nothing, frame of Swiss cheese structure, head in the boot or missing altogether.

Do they seem happier?

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
1/31/12 11:59 a.m.

I mostly buy Eggland's Best. But honestly I've never been to Eggland. I don't even know where it is. Anybody ever been?

I buy organically-produced milk too. Mostly because I don't want my kids to experience puberty at age 9.

http://www.thevigilantmom.com/2011/05/early-puberty-and-rbgh/

"...recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH) is used to increase milk production in about 30 percent of the dairy cows in America, and is estimated to be used in 90 percent of the beef we consume. It was approved by the FDA years ago, but some scientists, as well as consumer and health advocacy groups, have long expressed concern. Some critics of the FDA feel that not enough testing was done before the hormone was approved for use in dairy and beef. They point out that the FDA based its decision on the results of one test on rBGH conducted by the manufacturers. Meanwhile, a similar study was conducted in Canada in 1998, and based on those findings, the use of rBGH was banned in Canada. To date, it has also been banned in Europe, Japan, and Australia. (Things that make you go hmm…)"

Duke
Duke SuperDork
1/31/12 12:07 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: It's a matter of not putting dead E36 M3 in your body.

So you eat your vegetables ALIVE?! You sick bastard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvwc8_QXiY

ThePhranc wrote: Is it me or are mass produced commercial eggs getting thinner shells but thicker membranes on the inside? Use to be a time you cracked an egg and it cracked now I have to crack it and them split it open.
How does this work? I've noticed the exact same thing, I swear half of the eggs I use don't crack even when I give them a good HARD whack, and I end up making a mess. Weird!

That membrane dissolves as the egg ages. So all it means is that you're getting fresher eggs than you used to. I buy my eggs 2-3 weeks before Easter so that when we hardboil them and dye them a couple days before the holiday, the membranes are mostly gone and they are easy to peel.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
1/31/12 12:13 p.m.
fasted58 wrote: In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker: now ya just complicated the berkeley outta it

Not to mention the Jurassic Park scientists did it all wrong. They used frogs to supply the missing DNA when they should have been using Rhode Island Reds. Now that would have looked real funny in the lab parts of the movie.

My kid didn't drink organic milk, she still drinks whole milk like crazy (cows tremble at the sound of her name ) and she hit puberty about right, ~11-12 years. Early puberty is most stongly shown to be linked to childhood obesity and she definitely is not obese, if anything she's on the skinny side.

Our digestive systems are set up to deal with meat and veggies both. That tells me that eating meat is something we (along with zillions of other critters) have adapted to over the millenia. Heck, bacteria eat each other, isn't that a form of meat eating?

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/31/12 1:14 p.m.

I think Eggsland's Best eggs taste better than the store brand.

Cows eat chickens. http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/12/carnivory_in_cows_and_deer.php

Chimps eat red meat and hunt their food.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/31/12 1:27 p.m.

see... I do not eat red meat.. not because of any study or need to be healthy.. I just do not find it appetizing anymore. If I were a health nut, I would have stopped eating bacon long ago

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox SuperDork
1/31/12 1:33 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
mad_machine wrote: wow.. you guys are pretty hostile to those of us who do not eat red meat
I don't understand vegitarianism at all and personally think it's silly. But, that's my opinion and I don't knock anyone for not eating meat. I do crack up though with all these *-vegetarians out there. If you eat an animal product, you are not a vegetarian. I love it when one of my wife's hippy-wannabe friends says she is a vegetarian "but I eat chicken, fish, butter, milk, eggs, ...."

You can be a vegetarian and still eat animal products, just not animals. You are thinking of a vegan. Vegans don't eat animal products.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/31/12 1:35 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: I think Eggsland's Best eggs taste better than the store brand. Cows eat chickens. http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2010/12/carnivory_in_cows_and_deer.php Chimps eat red meat and hunt their food.

Whitetail deer throw the meat away and devour the bones. That is worse than zombies... and you can't outrun them.

Duke
Duke SuperDork
1/31/12 1:36 p.m.

I'm bi-vegetarian. It's all about having choices.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
1/31/12 1:47 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: ....Our digestive systems are set up to deal with meat and veggies both. That tells me that eating meat is something we (along with zillions of other critters) have adapted to over the millenia. Heck, bacteria eat each other, isn't that a form of meat eating?

But not dairy, at least no originally. That was a result of some genetic trait hundreds of years ago that took hold (probably because of the advantage of easier access to nutrition).

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
1/31/12 1:50 p.m.

For me it isn't so much about the ideology. I'll eat meat. For well-documented health reasons, I choose to severely limit my consumption of red meat. Primarily, I try to avoid highly processed foods. A lot of what you find on grocery shelves today resembles a chemical stew more so than it resembles food.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/31/12 1:57 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Primarily, I try to avoid highly processed foods. A lot of what you find on grocery shelves today resembles a chemical stew more so than it resembles food.

This is me too - factory food is something I really try to avoid but damn if it isn't pretty hard to do if you don't have the time to cook every meal or spend all day one day making a ton of leftovers.

I eat red meat like I eat chocolate brownies. Infrequently as a bit of a treat and it comes from venison, lamb or buffalo as much as I can find it - unless the beef is something special. I don't believe in magic but I do trust a rabbi more than the USDA so I always buy kosher meats when possible.

Klayfish
Klayfish HalfDork
1/31/12 1:58 p.m.

Look, just stop eating.

Debate over.

/thread.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn SuperDork
1/31/12 2:14 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Our digestive systems are set up to deal with meat and veggies both. That tells me that eating meat is something we (along with zillions of other critters) have adapted to over the millenia.

I thought it was the other way around - we started out as meat eaters and then evolved into eating vegetables too.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon SuperDork
1/31/12 2:18 p.m.

There's that whole pesky chicken/egg thing again, stuart.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/31/12 2:21 p.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

I am a diabetic and my doctor described the best way for me (or anyone) to eat like this:

Don't eat anything that somebody wouldn't have eaten during the 1930s. Shop around the outside of the supermarket and avoid anything that you don't have to cook or prepare yourself.

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