jhaas
HalfDork
2/25/13 11:07 p.m.
looking to do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M37lnkkvSw
as simple as this... http://www.toolmod.com/beadroller/harbor-freight-bead-roller-modification
or maybe nice as this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkRIf7k402c
any input welcome...
motor type (stepper?) size, voltage, and power transfer.
would prefer direct drive, no pulleys/chains
JThw8
PowerDork
2/26/13 8:40 a.m.
I was thinking about the same thing the other day. Was wondering if the spare window motor from the colony park would have enough oomph to do it.
In for thoughts, ideas and craziness.
jere
Reader
2/26/13 9:08 a.m.
How about a spare battery and a starter motor, or maybe something like a drill and bicycle gears? How hard is it to turn?
How about a little gear reduction electric winch motor? Electric boat winch? etc.
Riding mower gearbox and an electric motor, and a dead man switch.
jhaas
HalfDork
2/26/13 5:50 p.m.
RossD wrote:
Old garage door opener.
YES! here we go...
I want it to be 110vac not 12vdc.
I would also like instant start / stop control (stepper motor I think)
this is perfect, bu the motor is $275!
http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3403
more ideas please...
Ian F
PowerDork
2/26/13 6:18 p.m.
Any reason why not to go with a chain set up like the video? It seems to me the easiest way to get the gearing reduction. Otherwise maybe a worm drive set up. Some digging through a Grainger catalog should turn up something. Make sure whatever motor you choose can be reversible. Not all can be.
I am waiting for reasons why a garage door opener is a bad idea. Heck I have two old openers ready to be organ donors. I had pretty much given up on motorizing mine and planned on beefing it up building a wheel and calling ita day
Garage door opener is genius.
Speed control would ve my only concern. Mine would probably just get geared to 'slow' and be done with it though
Ian F
PowerDork
2/26/13 6:39 p.m.
My only concern with a garage door opener would be the duty cycle. That motor is only designed to run for a few seconds at a time. They are designed to reverse, so that's a plus. Plus, many use a chain drive gear reduction to get the torque multiplication.
I'm pretty sure the setup in the video is single speed, but is geared so low it doesn't matter. Without getting into pricey speed drives, using a 12v dc motor should allow for a relatively simple resistive speed controller.
Wait. Just saw a guy using a treadmill motor. And the speed control on a treadmill would work great.
Hmmmm. Off to CL
Modify the hf electric pipe threader to drive it. Swag off road uses one on the hf tubing roller.
Low rpm, plenty of torque, etc.
http://www.swagoffroad.com/Harbor-Freight-Tubing-Roller-Electric-Drive-Bottle-Jack-Kit_p_74.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/portable-electric-pipe-threader-95955.html
jhaas
HalfDork
2/27/13 12:51 a.m.
motomoron wrote:
This one. 40 bucks.
that one DOES look perfect. thank you
RossD
UberDork
2/27/13 7:33 a.m.
jhaas wrote:
motomoron wrote:
This one. 40 bucks.
that one DOES look perfect. thank you
My old garage door opener is 1/3 hp. That $40 gearset has 1/20 hp. If you use a sprocket to get down to the same rpm with the door opener, you will have much more torque. With the door opener you have two different ways to control it (the button on the wall and the IR sensor at the floor). So there is some cleaverness to be had there.
That gearset is pretty tempting, price wise, though...
How quickly and accurately you can stop it is important also. Don't forget that.
Unless of course you have real speed control and can slow right to nothing