What if you fly your own cheap RC plane into another RC plane by accident. Fighting fire with fire.
What if you fly your own cheap RC plane into another RC plane by accident. Fighting fire with fire.
In reply to PHeller: I fly a little bit (My son is the primary RC pilot of the family) and can tell you that would be harder to do than you might anticipate unless you have truly exceptional depth perception.
Mentally calculating lead and pulling a trigger, however, is not terribly hard. . .
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:dculberson wrote: While I am sympathetic with wanting to keep drones off your land and agree with that sentiment, firing a gun into the air isn't the best, safest, or most legal way to deal with it.It works perfectly on ducks, quail and other delicious flying objects. It is, in fact, the best, safe, legal way to obtain ducks and quail.
Sure, but are you hunting quail at home in a populated area?
N Sperlo wrote: Jamming radio frequencies is against FCC law. Playing with toys running the same frequencies is legal.
That doesn't work well with the new 2.4 GHz radio system though.
In reply to dculberson:
My family's 2 pieces of land that I hunt on are 240 acres and 320 acres respectively. We fire shotguns safely at flying ducks, geese, pheasant, quail, partridge and woodcock as often as possible. I have just had a thought, a Piper Super Cub and a door gunner with a 10 gauge semi auto would be a fun way to eliminate the drone.
PHeller wrote: What if you fly your own cheap RC plane into another RC plane by accident. Fighting fire with fire.
An RC plane/drone with a first person camera for flying it and a CO2 cannon would be great fun. I could be like the Red Baron of drone pilots.
What happens when drones start carrying defensive measures?
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
I like it. Go scale for extra awesomeness:
PHeller wrote: What happens when drones start carrying defensive measures?
Then we get out the shotgun, duh
pilotbraden wrote: In reply to dculberson: My family's 2 pieces of land that I hunt on are 240 acres and 320 acres respectively. We fire shotguns safely at flying ducks, geese, pheasant, quail, partridge and woodcock as often as possible. I have just had a thought, a Piper Super Cub and a door gunner with a 10 gauge semi auto would be a fun way to eliminate the drone.
Sure, but when people say "my property," I don't usually think of hundreds of acres of hunting ground. I think of a back yard in a suburban setting. :-)
In reply to dculberson:
I don't think there are many bow hunters that PETA (PITA?) want to harass in a suburban setting.
I dislike PETA, but as a hunter, I hate poachers the most. The drones I worry about aren't bought at Hobbytown.
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
I sold a 90% completed build of a 1/3rd scale Albatros D.V about 6 months ago....9ft wingspan and plenty of room internally.....could have easily adapted a smaller paintball marker to be carried onboard(that would be enough to take down most rc planes)
Worries about bullets falling out of the sky and killing people is vastly overblown. So far, we have one case of it ever happening. At that, trajectory is never mentioned or described, and I suspect that actually had a great deal to do with the incident. Otherwise, you're in more danger from falling hail.
The drone PETA is selling for this purpose is the Parrot A.R. Drone 2.0. It has a built in video camera, and can upload directly to the likes of facebook if you set it up to do so.
The FAA has ceiling height limits and proximity to airport restrictions, much like the restrictions on kites. That is not an issue for spying on hunters. The drones will be below these limits.
States and local jurisdictions are quickly setting up restrictions on drone flights. There are already restrictions here on drone flights in public and over private lands that are not your own. I do not recall what they are specifically, but they involve distances to people, minimal heights, etc. None of these restrictions typically apply to law enforcement of course.
Flying an AR Drone is not particularly easy. Especially with anything like accuracy. On, one can get it to lift off readily enough, and wobble around for a few minutes until the battery dies (about 5 minutes if you are lucky). But to fly accurately, or track something, that's darn hard. To the point of nearly impossible.
Now the likes of the Safe Technology quadrocopers like the Blade 350. Those can be flown very accurately, and can carry a Gopro camera and such. But again, flight time is limited to minutes.
There is also the matter of weather, wind especially. Drones fly best on nice calm days. If there is wind, even a breeze, the AR Drones are blown around and easily crashed or lost if flight is attempted. Don't know how well they can handle rain or snow.
foxtrapper wrote: Worries about bullets falling out of the sky and killing people is vastly overblown. So far, we have one case of it ever happening. At that, trajectory is never mentioned or described, and I suspect that actually had a great deal to do with the incident. Otherwise, you're in more danger from falling hail.
Who's "we?"
http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5350a2.htm
"In Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve"
In reply to dculberson:
Heres the distinct difference here......did the bullet come down with just gravity(non-lethal) or was it fired at about a 30-45 degree angle and its coming down with gravity and its leftover kinetic energy(which can be fatal)? Oh wait, the CDC doesn't want to actually find that out.
"We" was US. Carefully not mentioned in that CDC report was trajectory. Though it was hinted at a few times, with allusions to vertical angling and buildings and such. Basically, it seems when drunks go shooting guns upwards in crowded areas, with tallish buildings, the bullets can indeed punch through walls, floors, and even people while going up.
The risk from bullets falling down from the sky, vanishingly small. Though again, as I said previously, trajectory.
dculberson wrote: "In Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve"
Those asshats are firing pistols and rifles where a hunk of metal is going to be coming from a mile up traveling really fast. Or... like trapper said - from half a mile away at a trajectory more like aiming high that shooting straight up.
Shotguns have very small effective ranges. Less than 100 yards (much less typically). Shotguns do not fire bullets. They fire shot. A gentle rain of steel BBs dropped from 150' isn't hurting anyone and anyone who could be harmed by an angled shot would be in line of sight.
Over 45° shouldn't usually rain down with lethal force. One of these did, but was likely not above 45°. I find these at work often enough.
yamaha wrote: This.....they aren't drones either.
Just out of curiosity, why not?
I believe the technical word would be "UAV" (unmanned aerial vehicle), but that applies to a lot if stuff, and is often short handed as "drone".
They are not military drones, and they are not armed drones, and they are not autonomously controlled, but I believe they are still drones.
Even the Wiki for UAV's includes a quote from Colin Guinn of DJI, referring to them as a Texas based retail UAV manufacturer.
In reply to SVreX:
Drones should be semi or fully autonomous, hence the name drone. These appear to be FPV setup r/c aircraft.
It is true that they are a UAV, but a short range UAV that requires control all the time is not a "Drone"
In reply to yamaha:
I brought it up because my son had the same opinion as you in a conversation last night.
I don't think that is actually the definition:
Wiki (Yeah, I know) said: An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), commonly known as a drone and referred to as a Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA) by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), is an aircraft without a human pilot aboard. Its flight is controlled either autonomously by onboard computers or by the remote control of a pilot on the ground or in another vehicle.
In reply to yamaha:
BTW, a DJI Phantom can fly by GPS waypoints, entirely without a person controlling it.
Hmm, touche. These bastards will never come to Indiana anyways......too many people that hate PETA.
The next large scale rc I build might end up armed with a small paintball marker just for lulz.
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