Water Saver toilets

I hate them. That is all.

Know what you mean. The newsed crib has two of the olde skool non-PC 3 gallon toilets and I rebuilt them rather than replace with those damn new ones. Man, it's nice not to have to hover over the things with a plunger.

But if you gotta have a low flow type, TOTO does make the best.

Get the ones with the larger diameter pipes that say they can flush a whole herd of cattle and they work just fine.

There's a bigger issue though. If you retrofit them your plumbing may not have enough drop to "clear the lines" without the extra flow. This means you may need to flush multiple times.

carguy123 wrote: your plumbing may not have enough drop to "clear the lines" without the extra flow. This means you may need to flush multiple times.

after one flush ya mean it leaves poop n 'at?

iceracer wrote: I hate them. That is all.

Me too. And water saver faucets, and showers...

I'm fighting an old school toilet right now. I really want to keep it and make it work. Low flows don't work (low flow that is) if you have to flush multiple times.

Retro toilets + gray water system FTMFW

It could be worse. They could be German toilets. I have yet to decide whether the toilets or the pillows are the worst thing about this country.

^^^^THAT IS FULL OF AWESOME.

No. It's terrible. If you stand up, it sprays back at you. And you pretty much always have to use a scrub brush after every crap if you don't want smelly brown streaks.

WHY?

I'm pretty sure Germans' poop doesn't come out saran-wrapped, that is a cleaning disaster in the making there x_x

GameboyRMH wrote: WHY?

Because they like to be able to easily examine their stool.

Salanis wrote: I have yet to decide whether the toilets or the pillows are the worst thing about this country.

My favourite pillows are from Germany. I can't sleep without a feather pillow. Being someone who prefers to conserve, and living where water can sometimes be at a premium, the toilet is something that frustrates me. It takes how many gallons of water to get rid of a little pee?

Zomby Woof wrote: As someone who prefers to conserve, and living where water can sometimes be at a premium, the toilet is something that frustrates me. It takes how many gallons of water to get rid of a little pee? My favourite pillows are from Germany. I can't sleep without a feather pillow.

Oh, I like the on/off plunger so you can use exactly as much water as you need. I hate the shelf.

I sleep on my side and like a thick, firm pillow. I have to resort to folding one of these strange square pillows in half, and usually readjusting it in the middle of the night.

My "Cadet Flow Wise III" is awesome.

Salanis wrote: It could be worse. They could be German toilets. I have yet to decide whether the toilets or the pillows are the worst thing about this country.

aw man! I have to use those too!

Not to mention pissing in them is a lot like pissing on a coffee table...

If they DO clog, good luck getting a good plunger seal, usually you just catch spray...

And the POO STREAKS!!! My god! I've never used a toilet brush so many times in my life! ( I named my toilet "Racing Stripes")

Apparently the only low flows you guys have used are the cheap ones or the old ones.

At my old house I upgraded to a pretty toilet that ended up being low flow and it took flushing after each turd and stopping up regularly. So when I built my new house I did a little research and found out that they had to redesign the dump valve and the exit tubing to make the low flows work well.

I've got 5 low flows in my house and they are less trouble than the older high flow models. I believe they have a 4" dump valve and say they will flush 47,177 tennis balls at one time or something like that and THEY WILL!

If your plunger doesn't seat well then it's the shape of the commode and has nothing to do with low or high flow. There are lots of designs of the bowl.

Water levels vary by manufacturer and design. I had to look long and hard to find ones that left some dry space above the water and wasn't water all the way to the edge. Just like there are a wide variety of cars, there are a wide variety styles available.

When we design office bathrooms with waterless urinals, we always put the water pipes in the walls because eventually the waterless ones get replaced with old fashioned urinals.

To use less water with a toilet, get a pressure assist toilet. It uses the water pressure to inflate a bladder and when you flush the bladder releases the water quickly and helps flush.

Y'all need a Ferguson...

Our new toilet that I just installed is supposed to be a water saver, but it sure flushes a LOT faster and with more force than the old one it replaced, and still uses less water. I like it. All I have to do is hold down the flush lever an extra second if I need it to keep flushing a little longer than usual.

Its not even a fancy one, pretty much just the cheapest one that my wife liked the look of. A++++++ toilet would buy another.

My dad had a pressurized one in his house. It works like this: the water coming in is under pressure, the pressure is used to fill a compressed air canister (sort of like an AccuSump) which is contained in the toilet tank. Once you drop a deuce, when you hit the lever you get the Nanny State mandated 1.6 gallons but it's under pressure. Damn thing sounds like a jet engine. I managed to stop it up once. I'm not sure whether to be embarrased by or proud of that.

Salanis wrote: It could be worse. They could be German toilets. I have yet to decide whether the toilets or the pillows are the worst thing about this country.

Ahahaha! At my old job we called those "pay & display" toilets.

They built us a brand new building and put the hateful things in for god only knows what reason... Well the joke was on whoever planned that clusterberkeley, because I still had a key to the decommissioned old building and so regularly used the bathrooms in there while it sat empty for ~8 mo. I had to quit doing that when they started actively taking out the walls and such.

Everybody hates them. This is not an "oh but I grew up with those toilets so I'm used to them" thing.

ok im going to ask. is that duck part of the bowl? why? so you crap on it? blame the duck when you fart?

I truly hated them when they came out (low flush, not duck models), and still dislike many of them. But those with large straight pipes in and out, they work great. Even better than old fashioned toilets.

Curmudgeon wrote: My dad had a pressurized one in his house. It works like this: the water coming in is under pressure, the pressure is used to fill a compressed air canister (sort of like an AccuSump) which is contained in the toilet tank. Once you drop a deuce, when you hit the lever you get the Nanny State mandated 1.6 gallons but it's under pressure. Damn thing sounds like a jet engine. I managed to stop it up once. I'm not sure whether to be embarrased by or proud of that.

Be proud, sir. Be very proud