As others have said, Sinsheim is pretty cool. Its sort-of a collection of whatever random stuff they could get. From steam locomotives and Ferraris to old military stuff - plus you can walk through a Concorde and its Russian clone the Tupolev.
It doesn't take long to go through the Porsche museum in Stuttgart. On the other hand you can spend a LONG time at the Mercedes museum (which is not far from the Porscheplatz. You ride an elevator to the top and walk down.
Sinsheim is an interesting place , some of the cars are just "parked" there on display by the owners , it's a safe place for them and people get to see them instead of sitting in the garage at home , I know a couple people that did that ,
The military stuff is in the 2nd building and has a lot of neat stuff.
I am pretty sure there is a train station but that was many years ago ,
I always liked to stop by for the Imbiss food place for bratwurst and pommes..,....
You can see the planes from the Autobahn.
If you're traveling with spouse, do try to visit Rothenberg, definately a "romantic" location and taking her there should earn you points. If you are in Dresden, I highly reccomend the Military History Museum.
Yeah, Dresden is absolutely a place to check out should you find yourself in Berlin. As M2Pilot said, the Military History Museum is highly recommended, as is a trip into Radebeul (20 minutes on the #4 tram) where all of the vineyards are. If you're into hiking and whatnot, Sächsische Schweiz isn't far away, nor is nearby Festung Königstein, which is an absolute must-see. A day trip to Prague is easily doable from Dresden, as its only about 2 hours away via train.
A day or to in Prague would indeed be nice. Beautiful historic city. Prostitution is legal in Czech Republic.
All good stuff, guys! Keep it coming!
Would be pretty cool to check out the concorde.
Looking into the f1 race i could take a flight or a 12 hour train ride. I do love trains. Does anyo e k ow if the scenery would be worth the long train ride?
Definitely will check out Sinsheim.
this is more airplane, than car... but you might consider the Flugwerft Schleissheim museum outside of Munich
Is this a one and only time trip ? Or the start of your yearly European vacations ?
Out of the big cities is so much nicer , a ride thru the Black Forest , cross country thru the small villages , etc
F1 race would be cool but it will eat up 3 days of your short trip .
What other race series are running that weekend ?
If you are a Facebook kind of guy see if you can get adopted by one of the other series teams pit crew.....it's worth a try , bring USA F1 goodies as gifts and to trade....
californiamilleghia said:Is this a one and only time trip ? Or the start of your yearly European vacations ?
Out of the big cities is so much nicer , a ride thru the Black Forest , cross country thru the small villages , etc
F1 race would be cool but it will eat up 3 days of your short trip .
What other race series are running that weekend ?
If you are a Facebook kind of guy see if you can get adopted by one of the other series teams pit crew.....it's worth a try , bring USA F1 goodies as gifts and to trade....
Not married, not my only trip to germany or europe ever. Just my first. Plan to make more in my life time. Not sure how the race would take up three days. It was suggested to me to take the train there overnight to also save on a hotel that night.
I guess I figured you would want to make a weekend of it and see whatever races on Saturday too.
Plus travel time ....
You're going to the Hungaroring F1, right?
I just plotted out the route as hadn't been that far East and noticed that you're hitting a lot of the highlights in Austria. It might be worth considering doing a multi-stop train trip and stop in Salzburg, Vienna and Budapest. I haven't been to Budapest myself (yet) but it is supposed to be a beautiful city.
Speaking as someone who's spent a lot of time traveling in Europe, I strongly suggest you plan less stuff to do. The temptation to do everything is great, but the reality is that you end up exhausted and can't remember half of what you did. Pick a few things and let the rest of the trip just happen. European cities can be wonderful destinations all by themselves, especially if you have time to explore. You can always add things when you're there if you feel like it, but planning an itinerary to the minute seems like a recipe for disappointment to me.
Cant say I've ever planned too much on any vacation ive taken but if there for 7 days i dont think hitting 5 or 6 museums as too much. I typically make a list then prioritize on level of interest and do what i can. If something gets missed so be it. Ill be by my self so once im up i hit the ground running. No waiting on others.
I made a trip to japan years ago with similar list and time. Again by my self. Its amazing what you can see and do when you dont have others slowing you down.
sleepyhead said:dankspeed said:sleepyhead said:I agree with hitting Munich, and plenty of car stuff there. If you want to get out to the ‘ring, you’re going to need a rental car... public transit out there is difficult. Also, your wife will probably be bored... unless you drop her in Adenau... and then for probably not that long.
I dig Neuschwanstain/Hohenschwangau. That’s probably a day trip, though.
No wife for me so I don't have to worry about keeping anyone else happy but me. When you say difficult what exactly do you mean?
From Frankfurt am Main "Main Train Station"... which is the biggest airport closest to the 'Ring... it's 3 trains and 2 buses, with a total of 4 hours of travel... one way... and I don't recall where the bus stop is, and how far it is to the Dottinger Hohe entrance (where most of the 'Ring Taxi's are), but if it's in town, then some of the walking is... not pleasant, iirc. If you're traveling from the airport, it's another train, and probably another 20-30mins of travel time. Heck, google maps won't even try and make a public transit route... I had to do that through Deutsche Bahn's website (except the Airport to Hauptbahnhof part, which is from memory). Most of that week Mon-Thu it's currently scheduled open after the manufacturer's pool from 5:15 to 7:30.
Man, this makes me want to drop it into the calendar, get sleepwife to watch the kids for two days, and just meet you at FRA and then drive out for a couple of laps.
Do it!! lol
In reply to oldopelguy :
Would love to help out oldopelguy but I doubt I'll get that far north.
So rough plan right now is to fly into Munich and have that be my "base".
Take the train to Stuttgart and knock out both the Mercedes and Porsche museums. I've also emailed them about setting up a tour of the Porsche factory.
I'll reserve a hotel and stay over there if needed to squeeze both in.
After that make my way back to Munich before heading to Hungary for the F1 race.
Plan to take an overnight train saturday to get there early sunday, make my way to the race and spend the whole day there and slowly work my way back to the station and grab another overnight train back to munich.
After that (monday morning) the schedule would be open to hang out around munich and\or squeeze in a short trip or two.
Haven't figured out when to squeeze in Sinsheim though. Any suggestions...
The museum in Sinsheim is less than an hour from the Porsche museum, at least by car. I'd say that's a worthwhile detour. I think trying to do the Mercedes and Porsche museums as a single day round trip is a bit much even if you don't drive, so I'd stay around Stuttgart/Sinsheim and visit that museum as well.
BoxheadTim said:The museum in Sinsheim is less than an hour from the Porsche museum, at least by car. I'd say that's a worthwhile detour. I think trying to do the Mercedes and Porsche museums as a single day round trip is a bit much even if you don't drive, so I'd stay around Stuttgart/Sinsheim and visit that museum as well.
I agree. Thought about it more after posting. Thinking now ill stay in munich till its time to depart for the race and explore then on monday start traveling toward Stuttgart. Both musuems are closed on monday so that will give me some walk around time. Get a hotel in stuttgart and hit all the museums including sinsheim.
The Porsche and Mercedes Museums are both worth it and both nearby to each other. The Mercedes is HUGE and full of interesting automotive history, as well as trucks, buses and the UNIMOG.
When in that area, Heidelberg is a nice visit, head to the castle, great view, and interesting history of the apothecary. Scwabisch Hall is another great visit, it's an old walled city with neat history, shops, dining and views. Down the road from Sinseim is Neckarsulm, the Audi factory. It's neat to see trains full of R8's roll by. (If you want to make $20, can you leave a flaming bag of dog poo on a doorstep in Bad Frierichshall for me?)
Southern Germany is very agrarian, so I recommend a trip to wine country. Check out https://www.haus-nicklass.de/ for a great little spot to stay and hit some local wineries. Cute little town, not far from Heidelberg.
My favorite towns:
Heidelberg. Like many towns, half of it was destroyed in WW2, but there is still the old part of town that is just super neat. Do the walk up to the castle and taste their horrible wines. Lots of history there.
Dinkelsbuhl. This is one of the most closely preserved medieval towns. They still have a complete perimeter wall with a guy in costume who walks the parapet and signals with a bugle on the hour that "all is well."
Rothenburg. Similar vibe
I had to see Dachau for myself. Sobering.
Dusseldorf. A super fun mix of Altstadt and a newer, artsy, fashion-laced, colorful modern part.
Munich is fun, but there is only so much time you can spend staring at a huge cuckoo clock and drinking at Hoffbrauhaus. But, it puts you close to Saltzburg Austria just across the border. You can visit the Abbey where Mozart wrote some of his biggest works. The massive pipe organ he played is still there and they play it periodically to keep it functioning. That Bayern (Bavarian) state is what you typically think of when you picture Germany/Austria... lederhosen, alpin, tyrol, cuckoo clocks, mountains, and Hofbrau.
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