I think it's time to get going. in 2016 I left Amazon to come back to aerospace for family reasons. I say family reasons, but it really is code for my wife was depressed as hell in Seattle and I found a great job leading and growing a team of people. I had direct relationships with leadership, I was noticed.. going upward.. Line of sight to Exec... And then the overall company purchased another... We merged and the people with my background(those who came from the company that I am from).. Well.. We lost the leadership war. The other company, the purchasee's leaders won. And that's not a bad thing.. They are great people and nice and kind.... But... Everything I worked for was taken away and given to those who had other relationships.. I've taken a beating mentally... The job I'm left with, I guess its a good job.. but it's not what I want...
So I've decided to take a step back in responsibility.. recharge the batteries.. spend more time on the mountian bike and fishing....
Ohh and I got a line on a good job at another E commerce company. A little more pay, no leadership, more equity.... Building and growing something good. I'm going to be going from a fortune 50 company to a Fortune 1 company.. I guess if they re write the offer they said they would.. so back to e commerce????
What A mess of a post.
Yer gonna work for the Beez?
If the job berks with your head it's not the right job. Keep looking forward and up. Take care of you and yours.
Duke
MegaDork
3/26/21 9:38 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:
A little more pay, no leadership, more equity...
The closer I get to retirement, the better this sounds.
Guess I'm just not a Type A personality. But then again I've known that since I was 18.
Sounds like you're making good moves, as long as it won't rekindle the issues that led you to leaving in the first place.
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
No. Amazon is fortune 2. I tried going back there but just couldn't find the right role. I wouldn't move for them and that was a deal breaker. Seattle ain't my families happy place.
In reply to Duke :
You know. The issues were brought on by the circumstances that shook out due to M&A. I would have just changed jobs in the company, picked myself up and dusted myself off but the overall downturn in aviation was a factor. All of my mentors and sponsors at the exec level have all left the company or been demoted. Those who are left have no positions available. And to be fair I was going to have to change career focus inside the company anyway
This role allows me to work from home and travel to sites as I build. We will give it a shot for a bit.
WIll you be moving to Bentonville?
Do you have to turn in your Costco membership?
In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
God I hope not.
CJ (FS) said:
WIll you be moving to Bentonville?
Have you seen the mountain bike trails there? They are sick!!!! The family invested $50M into trails all over the city. I'd love to be able to mountain bike at lunch.
CJ (FS) said:
WIll you be moving to Bentonville?
Definitely a great place to do more mountain biking....
Good luck on the new endeavor! I tend to be loyal for far longer than is good for me, but when it's time, it's time.
ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) said:
CJ (FS) said:
WIll you be moving to Bentonville?
Good luck on the new endeavor! I tend to be loyal for far longer than is good for me, but when it's time, it's time.
I was patient this time. Usually I am not but I had a team to help through transitions. I needed to take care of the 30 people who worked for me as best as possible
Fueled by Caffeine said:
We merged and the people with my background(those who came from the company that I am from).. Well.. We lost the leadership war. The other company, the purchasee's leaders won.
Been there...
In 1997 I took a job with a then small start up officially named Sprint Spectrum Limited Partnership and their new endeavor/brand Sprint PCS. I was one of the first 50 people in the State of Ohio. I stayed there for some years and was recruited away to ATT and then a few years after that to Nextel to launch their new brand Boost Mobile.
In the Sprint-Nextel merger/purchase/whatever the leadership war went to Sprint and the Sprint people were considered the smart people. I thought I might be able to keep a foot in each camp having been former Sprint but... A guy I had once direct line reported to at Sprint had risen to a place of prominence. I took a shot at reading him and I knew it would be the beginning of the end.
Just as well. God, I hated Sprint, what they had become, and what they stood for. Some years later, Sprint became the 4th in an industry of 4. Today they no longer exist. Good riddance!
In my 15 years in that industry I had 14 great years.
In reply to John Welsh :
I used to work for a company here in Dallas called Nucentrix Broadband Networks. They got bought out by Nextel who then got bought out by Sprint. We all got the axe when Nextel bought us and stripped the company for it's microwave internet technology. A technology that neither Nextel nor Sprint ever used. Telecom is a weird business.
I remember dumping Sprint a few years ago as a cell provider when the solution to every problem I had with them involved calling an offshore call center where people barely spoke English and paying them more fees.
In reply to Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) :
Ha.
When I found myself working for Sprint again... If I was somewhere like a dinner party or meeting people socially (or even here on GRM) I was always very reluctant to speak of the fact that I worked for Sprint. The reason was that once they found out the most common was something to the effect of, "omg my bill...omg the service...omg can you help, etc" I really couldn't help with anything Sprint related at that point working for the Boost and Virign Mobile brands (but I could help with those, somewhat.)
Once you are embarrassed to admit who you work for, it all goes downhill pretty quickly.
As someone who is dealing with a merger and their workplace is going down hill fast I feel this in my soul. Sometimes it's time to go.
I work in aerospace. We were acquired in ~2017. Then that new company was acquired in 2018 by a huge company. Then that company merged with another huge company in 2019.
I'm so tired of this E36 M3.
Fueled by Caffeine said:
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
No. Amazon is fortune 2. I tried going back there but just couldn't find the right role. I wouldn't move for them and that was a deal breaker. Seattle ain't my families happy place.
Thank you for that. For some reason, in my mind Amazon passed WalMart ten years ago and I always felt that WalMart's best years were well behind them. I see now that I was mistaken.
Best of luck in your future endeavors!
notifcation done.. I've never been more heart broken over leaving a job before..
ProDarwin said:
I work in aerospace. We were acquired in ~2017. Then that new company was acquired in 2018 by a huge company. Then that company merged with another huge company in 2019.
I'm so tired of this E36 M3.
I'm in fintech. My company has had so many M&As that it is really hard to keep track. The last one is really berkeleying things up for my group, and I'm tired of it.
1988RedT2 said:
Fueled by Caffeine said:
In reply to 1988RedT2 :
No. Amazon is fortune 2. I tried going back there but just couldn't find the right role. I wouldn't move for them and that was a deal breaker. Seattle ain't my families happy place.
Thank you for that. For some reason, in my mind Amazon passed WalMart ten years ago and I always felt that WalMart's best years were well behind them. I see now that I was mistaken.
Best of luck in your future endeavors!
It depends on what statistic you're looking at. Amazon has passed Walmart in income and market capitalization, but Walmart is still ahead by a lot in revenue.
ProDarwin said:
I work in aerospace. We were acquired in ~2017. Then that new company was acquired in 2018 by a huge company. Then that company merged with another huge company in 2019.
I'm so tired of this E36 M3.
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that. We were bought out about 2 weeks after I started, but I knew it was coming as the deal had already been announced. Let me rephrase, the deal was completed 2 weeks after I started.
I was OK with that though. As my RSU sign-on bonus immediately doubled in value, but I lost my unlimited PTO since they took my position from salary to hourly. Also, not bad, except we never really have the work to justify OT.
z31maniac said:
ProDarwin said:
I work in aerospace. We were acquired in ~2017. Then that new company was acquired in 2018 by a huge company. Then that company merged with another huge company in 2019.
I'm so tired of this E36 M3.
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that. We were bought out about 2 weeks after I started, but I knew it was coming as the deal had already been announced. Let me rephrase, the deal was completed 2 weeks after I started.
I was OK with that though. As my RSU sign-on bonus immediately doubled in value, but I lost my unlimited PTO since they took my position from salary to hourly. Also, not bad, except we never really have the work to justify OT.
To be clear, I am fine with the higher level changes. The main issue is that policies (HR stuff) are in a constant state of flux, and the IT system is an absolute nightmare. All these companies are stuck together and expected to work together, but can't share files, can't talk to one another properly, have a variety of different data labeling restrictions, import/export controls, etc. The paperwork overhead BS has become crippling. People just want to do their jobs. I totally get why some big companies hamstring themselves and end up having to split up to become effective again.
In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :
If you remove Amazon's cloud revenue they're tiny compared to Walmart.
then you could argue that removing Walmart's grocery business makes them tiny compared to amazon. Etc etc.
