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Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 2:43 p.m.

I've about had it with my 2000 Jetta TDI. I love the gas mileage, I love the diesel, I love that it tows my boat. Unfortunately my hate list is much longer. What pushed me over the edge is every time I fix something, something else breaks. The worst part is that something else is always something cheap but takes 8 hours to replace or 10 hours of reading on the forums. Most recently it's my alternator, trunk and drivers side door. It has 205,000 miles on it and I think it's time to upgrade.

About me: I tow a boat. Two boats actually. One is ~500#s the other ~1400#s (with trailer). I do a lot of things outdoors like surfing, mountain biking, camping, getting dirty. I like leather seats because they keep clean. Roof racks will probably end up on this puppy.

I drive around 16k a year and I very much enjoy road trips. Efficiency is nice but I know I'll take a hit after the TDI.

I like tinkering with things but I have recently learned that I have enough things that need tinkering and I would rather spend my time tinkering on a boat than my car. Reliability would be nice for a change.

I do all my own maintenance and will be doing as much as I can of my repairs. Forums/ community to teach me these things would be a major plus. Thank goodness for TDIclub.com.

I'm looking to spend up to $15k, but realistically 10-13 is probably more like it. I'm thinking 2006 and newer just because I generally jump in 6 year increments. My initial thoughts are TSX or IS250. I live in FL so winter is not an issue.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
12/10/13 2:45 p.m.

TSX Uses a one piece aluminum rear subframe. There is no way in hell I'd pull a boat with it. Same with the TL.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Event Marketing
12/10/13 2:46 p.m.

BOOM!

EvanR
EvanR HalfDork
12/10/13 2:55 p.m.

Not very lux, but your price range isn't very far off a brand-new Jeep Patriot. For about $17k (after rebate) you can get one with a/c (it's still optional?!), the upgraded 2.4 engine, and the tow package (rated to 2k lbs)

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
12/10/13 2:59 p.m.

Buick Roadmaster

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Dork
12/10/13 3:07 p.m.

The Panther platform is your friend here.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
12/10/13 3:07 p.m.

Saab Turbo Wagon.
Far less than budget.
Good mpg for the storage space they offer.

How about a Saab and a half?
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/4221793181.html

http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/4184747620.html

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
12/10/13 3:25 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: TSX Uses a one piece aluminum rear subframe. There is no way in hell I'd pull a boat with it. Same with the TL.

My cousin tows his catamaran with his, no problems. Anecdotes.

In any case, I'd be looking towards an LS400, Panther platform (LOTS of towing capacity available there, although if you go Town Car I'd get rid of the air-suspension), possibly a Chrysler 300, Nissan Maxima, Infiniti G35.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
12/10/13 3:28 p.m.
Racer1ab wrote: The Panther platform is your friend here.

I came in here to say this.

Brian
Brian UltraDork
12/10/13 5:12 p.m.
Racer1ab wrote: The Panther platform is your friend here.

as much as i dislike fords, this would be recommendation too.

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 5:35 p.m.

Not really interested in a crown vic. Too big of a car and too big of a motor. Also I don't think that I like the CVT transmissions in Nissans.

How about a Volvo S40? Tow rating is 2k.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4149548476.html

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/10/13 7:14 p.m.

you can pick up an S70 for not much more. Bigger engine, bigger car, more lux, but still a volvo

JtspellS
JtspellS Dork
12/10/13 7:21 p.m.

Ford flex work for you?

motomoron
motomoron SuperDork
12/10/13 7:26 p.m.

e39 M5.

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 7:38 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: you can pick up an S70 for not much more. Bigger engine, bigger car, more lux, but still a volvo

Did you mean S60?

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 7:38 p.m.
JtspellS wrote: Ford flex work for you?

Ehhhhhh I don't hate it....but possibly.

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 7:39 p.m.
motomoron wrote: e39 M5.

At this point I'm pretty much turned off of VW/Audi/German/The like cars.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
12/10/13 7:40 p.m.

LS430 or newer.

Enyar
Enyar HalfDork
12/10/13 8:01 p.m.

Gah the more I look into it the more it looks like I'll have to get a truck. Sigh......

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Event Marketing
12/10/13 8:27 p.m.

Yeah, the 1400# boat most likely puts you well out of the ratings for most cars.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
12/10/13 8:29 p.m.

Buy that mid size, full frame SUV with the large 4 cyl diesel engine that gets 29 mpg hyw and has a 5,000lb towing capacity.

Oh, yeah...you can't buy anything like that in the US!

Grizz
Grizz SuperDork
12/10/13 8:29 p.m.

Get a decent car, then get a E36 M3ty truck to pull the boats.

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte Dork
12/10/13 8:37 p.m.
pres589 wrote: Buick Roadmaster

Or Caprice Wagon. Like A Rock, paddy wagon style.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Event Marketing
12/10/13 8:38 p.m.

Is this when I say Trooper?

Seriously though, you could get a late-model Mercedes wagon for $15k or so.

thestig99
thestig99 HalfDork
12/10/13 8:45 p.m.

01-07 ish XC70 and S60 seem to be rated for 3300lbs.

3500lbs for an 06-09 Saab 9-5.

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