What is the appeal of geezers in concert?

Kinda fun watching The Who sing "My Generation" when in their late 60s.

Otto Maddox wrote: Tina Turner is a tranny. So is Cher. Gross.

tina turner is 70 and opens her concert with Thunderdome in full armor.

She is the last shining example of female rock & roll. Pretty much all the rest of them went to pop and R&B. How dare a 70 year old woman look and sound like shes in her 40s ~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAe4_yGaxhM

It is sad. I would never go to see the rock and roll bands from the late '60s (read: The Who, Led Zeppelin) that got me into the music I listen to now. And other than that I mostly like modern music.

madmallard wrote: How dare a 70 year old woman look and sound like shes in her 40s ~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAe4_yGaxhM

Actually, I saw a 70 year old covered in massive amounts of makeup to try and make her look 40, her face wasn't even the same color as the rest of her.

But I guess we are all in agreement about Cher.

Otto Maddox wrote: I saw a RATT show around that time also. Queensryche opened. The problem with lots of these bands is dead members, like Ratt for example.

Yep. Def Leppard may still put on a good show, but I just can't see them without Steve Clark.

madmallard wrote:

Otto Maddox wrote: Tina Turner is a tranny. So is Cher. Gross.

tina turner is 70 and opens her concert with Thunderdome in full armor. She is the last shining example of female rock & roll. Pretty much all the rest of them went to pop and R&B. How dare a 70 year old woman look and sound like shes in her 40s ~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAe4_yGaxhM

Wow...amazing stage. Her dancers looked like really good martial artists, too.

This is my favorite song of hers http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5zmyi_tina-turner-eric-clapton-guests-tea_music

Is there any new rock and roll? It seems to me that for the last 15 years, the record industry has been promoting nothing but rap and hip hop, and if you don't like that all you have is the old stuff.

i've been catching up on my geezer stuff for the past year or so: Jeff Beck, Manzarek/Krieger, Bryan Ferry, David Byrne, Elvis Costello, Bill Kirchen, Steve Earle. And every one of them a damn good time.

btw, anybody see the metal series on VH1 classic? that guy did a really good job of finding some of the old dudes.

I am almost ashamed to admit I saw Black Sabbath when they toured with Godsmack and Drain sth 10ish years ago and if it hadn't been Black Sabbath up there I would say Godsmack stole the show, they gave one hell of a show. Black Sabbath was great but I wish I had gotten to see them when they were still in their prime. I have seen Ozzy several times since at Ozzfest and he is doing the best his drug adled old body and mind can do but he is not what he used to be.

jdw wrote: i've been catching up on my geezer stuff for the past year or so: Jeff Beck, Manzarek/Krieger, Bryan Ferry, David Byrne, Elvis Costello, Bill Kirchen, Steve Earle. And every one of them a damn good time. btw, anybody see the metal series on VH1 classic? that guy did a really good job of finding some of the old dudes.

I saw Steve Earle in October, he puts on a great show. Pretty good for being 57 with a new-born.

Unrelated to the geezer note, his son is an awesome show too.

Otto Maddox wrote:

motomoron wrote: As previously stated in this thread, my taste in music is unimpeachable. That said - I simply hate a huge swath of the "critically acclaimed artists" I'm supposed to like. Lou Reed, The Velvet Underground, Tom Waits, P.J. Harvey, most of Fugazi, pretty much anything Dischord released after 1985... I just don't get it. So, having established my peerless credentials, I love this song.

A lot of the trail blazers kind of suck. The Velvet Underground had poor recording, poor production quality, sometimes sloppy playing, sloppy singing, etc., but they were on to something good.

I think most of 'The Velvet Underground & Nico' and 'Loaded' is pretty accessible.

I saw John Mayall a few years ago, I suppose he was 72 or 73 at the time. He didn't miss a beat, it was a great show. http://www.johnmayall.com/

Metallica still puts on one hell of a show- and they do it for 3 hours. the fact that they are all pushing 50 is irrelevant- most young bands don't have half the energy they do. i think they'll finally hang it up when they become one of those bands that just stands there and plays the songs.

i know someone that went to the Gigantour a couple of weeks ago, and he said that Motorhead and Megadeth are still pretty damn good, too, but that Volbeat was right up there with them in the energy department- but they aren't "old" yet, so they don't count for the sake of this conversation..

Rob_Mopar wrote: I I'll keep going to see Rush every time they come around because they are still recording new material that is distinctly their style, and still put on a good show.

True dat. I've seen them double-digit times, and every show has been well worth the price of admission for me. The material is always evolving ( I still prefer the 80's stuff...Permanent Waves thru Power Windows...the best) and their musicianship--all three of them--is absolutely wonderful to see live.

The only one I would really call a "geezer" is the bassist of Black Sabbath, that guy's a real geezer.

BoostedBrandon wrote: The only one I would really call a "geezer" is the bassist of Black Sabbath, that guy's a real geezer.

...and on bass Mr Geezer Butler .

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

BoostedBrandon wrote: The only one I would really call a "geezer" is the bassist of Black Sabbath, that guy's a real geezer.

...and on bass Mr Geezer Butler .

I'll be here all week, please tip your waitresses.

friedgreencorrado wrote:

Marjorie Suddard wrote: But then, it's not like Dave Mason or Rick Derringer could ever lose those chops, and no matter what you think of their discography, there's nothing like seeing truly gifted musicians live.

This. Dave Mason with 30 more years of practice? I'm in. I forgot who said it first, but I guess it really does matter which artist you're talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5Afx_h-r0

Hey FGC, thanks!

I just spent the last 11:15 listening to a live take of Look At You, Look At Me.

fast_eddie_72 wrote: Man, I saw Paul McCartney with my son last year. I've been a life long Beatles fan and made sure my kids were familiar with their stuff. They both love them. Not only was it just cool to finally see one of them perform live, the show was outstanding! If you saw the end of the Grammy's show, you got a taste of it.

Yeah, old Paul's still got it. His band is incredible, too. His bass player is Jason Falkner, who has done some fantastic stuff over the years (Jellyfish, The Grays, Air). Awesome guitarist.

I haven't seen a "real" (i.e. not a local band) rock show since 1996 (Screaming Trees on the Dust tour in Boston). Not much interest in this new culture of everyone singing along at the top of their lungs (get off my lawn). Passed on seeing Swervedriver in NYC in March.

If Catherine Wheel got back together, I'd probably make a point to see them, though. Even if Rob Dickinson did another solo tour. He'd just tear himself away from Singer Sueprcars...

gamby wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: Man, I saw Paul McCartney with my son last year. I've been a life long Beatles fan and made sure my kids were familiar with their stuff. They both love them. Not only was it just cool to finally see one of them perform live, the show was outstanding! If you saw the end of the Grammy's show, you got a taste of it.

Yeah, old Paul's still got it. His band is incredible, too. His bass player is Jason Falkner, who has done some fantastic stuff over the years (Jellyfish, The Grays, Air). Awesome guitarist. I haven't seen a "real" (i.e. not a local band) rock show since 1996 (Screaming Trees on the Dust tour in Boston). Not much interest in this new culture of everyone singing along at the top of their lungs (get off my lawn). Passed on seeing Swervedriver in NYC in March. If Catherine Wheel got back together, I'd probably make a point to see them, though. Even if Rob Dickinson did another solo tour. He'd just tear himself away from Singer Sueprcars...

"new culture of singing along"?

that's half the fun- one of my best concert memories revolves around being in a football stadium with 50,000+ people at the Metrodome in Minneapolis in 1992 as Jason Newsted of Metallica led the crowd in the "DIE, DIE, DIE" chant in Creeping death..

Snowdoggie wrote: Is there any new rock and roll? It seems to me that for the last 15 years, the record industry has been promoting nothing but rap and hip hop, and if you don't like that all you have is the old stuff.

Rock and roll is a pretty broad question, but fundamentally I'd say if you're only listening to what the major labels are promoting the most, you're missing out on all the good stuff...

ransom wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote: Is there any new rock and roll? It seems to me that for the last 15 years, the record industry has been promoting nothing but rap and hip hop, and if you don't like that all you have is the old stuff.

Rock and roll is a pretty broad question, but fundamentally I'd say if you're only listening to what the major labels are promoting the most, you're missing out on all the good stuff...

Absolutely.

MAINSTREAM rock is dead. However, it's alive and well on the underground. It also depends how adventurous you are, though. The underground/indie stuff can range from pretty accessible to way out there.

As for the singing along thing, I simply don't remember being at shows where the crowds sang along to every song at the top of their lungs. Maybe it didn't happen at alternative/indie shows in the early-to-mid 90's, though.

Now, every piece of live footage I see has Joe Meathead screaming the lyrics of every song. Why bother going???

I'm an active listener, so I'm there to hear what's happening on the stage.

Rob_Mopar wrote:

friedgreencorrado wrote:

Marjorie Suddard wrote: But then, it's not like Dave Mason or Rick Derringer could ever lose those chops, and no matter what you think of their discography, there's nothing like seeing truly gifted musicians live.

This. Dave Mason with 30 more years of practice? I'm in. I forgot who said it first, but I guess it really does matter which artist you're talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5Afx_h-r0

Hey FGC, thanks! I just spent the last 11:15 listening to a live take of Look At You, Look At Me.

Take a few moments and catch a recent performance with Dave's cover of "All Along the Watchtower":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alrDells_W8&feature=related

gamby wrote:

ransom wrote:

Snowdoggie wrote: Is there any new rock and roll? It seems to me that for the last 15 years, the record industry has been promoting nothing but rap and hip hop, and if you don't like that all you have is the old stuff.

Rock and roll is a pretty broad question, but fundamentally I'd say if you're only listening to what the major labels are promoting the most, you're missing out on all the good stuff...

Absolutely. MAINSTREAM rock is dead. However, it's alive and well on the underground. It also depends how adventurous you are, though. The underground/indie stuff can range from pretty accessible to way out there. As for the singing along thing, I simply don't remember being at shows where the crowds sang along to every song at the top of their lungs. Maybe it didn't happen at alternative/indie shows in the early-to-mid 90's, though. Now, every piece of live footage I see has Joe Meathead screaming the lyrics of every song. Why bother going??? I'm an active listener, so I'm there to hear what's happening on the stage.

a lot of us go to concerts for the experience, and 20,000, 50,000, or 100,000 people all focused on one thing is one hell of an experience... the rest of the people go to get drunk, act stupid, and not remember what they spent $75 to do the night before..

and rock is definitely not dead as long as the world has Mr Dave Grohl..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC9knDTlc-Y

i don't think you will find a better clip out there to show what rock and roll is all about- 85,000 people screaming along to a song that he wrote, with a couple of moments where you can see that everything he had ever done in music up to that point was so totally worth it.. and after all that, Dave Grohl is just some dude that makes a really good living playing rock and roll and has and ego that's half as big as the members of some of the crappiest unknown bands i've seen playing in dive bars..

Otto Maddox wrote: Tina Turner is a tranny. So is Cher. Gross.

Actually, I have seen Transvestites play both of them... the guys looked better. However, Cher is another sweetie to work for. The One time I worked for her when her tour came to AC. She came down with Pizza for the crew