I don't understand why people say crew cab trucks are hard to see out of and to park. Never been my experience AT ALL.
I don't understand why people say crew cab trucks are hard to see out of and to park. Never been my experience AT ALL.
yupididit said:I don't understand why people say crew cab trucks are hard to see out of and to park. Never been my experience AT ALL.
+1. other than the long wheelbase, ours is easy peasy.
In reply to yupididit :
Crew cab 4x4's are much harder to maneuver than 2WD. They sit high, and it's hard to tell where the corners are.
Second gen GM's (2007 +) have HORRIBLE blind spots at the A-pillars.
In reply to SVreX :
I'm used to the previous generation in 2wd.
In reply to Grtechguy :
I am gonna suggest you rethink 2 of your parameters.
Seats 6: Since your eldest is about to start driving, you have not yet experienced this. But we found it much easier to drive 2 small cars than one large one at that point. You will no longer have the need to haul everyone, your kid can do some driving, plus you will find the family is gonna start heading in several directions at once- MUCH easier with multiple vehicles.
100,000 miles: This is obviously a spec written by a Northerner. Southerners don't care at all about mileage. It's much less important when cars don't rust and are driven their entire lives on roads without potholes. It will unfortunately affect your resale if you are selling in the north, but if you raise this threshold and include a fly-n-drive, you will find many, many more vehicles in your price range.
Bob the REAL oil guy. said:In reply to SVreX :
I'm used to the previous generation in 2wd.
Me too. I was shocked when I got a 2nd gen Silverado 4x4. They are a bitch to maneuver.
I've driven trucks for 40 years.
Get an SUV and a bike rack. I used to drive wagons and loved my Thule roof rack with bike trays. I still have it, but hefting the bike on top of the much higher SUV roof is a bit of a PITA. So I have the Thule hitch mounted bike rack, which works great and has the added bonus of holding the bikes with their front wheels still attached.
So maybe look at older Tahoes/Yukons/Suburbans
codrus said:frenchyd said:yupididit said:In reply to frenchyd :
Check his budget.
Modern crew cab under 100 k. Miles for $16k that gets good mileage? I had to take that with a grain of salt. Of course there might be that beat up off brand sitting in some banks repossessed lot but since that’s below whole sale it’s like trying to buy a $20 bill for $9 and change.
To be fair I don’t know what the OP considers modern or good gas mileage. I also don’t know how firm the under 16k is or under 100 k miles is either.
It does depend a lot on one's interpretation of "modern", but a few minutes of poking around on CA craigslist turns up this:
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-ford-150-lariat-4dr-4x4/6523909392.html
There are a number of other F-150 supercrews in that range too, although most of them are RWD.
As for the cab style, personally I find that the crew cab on my truck massively improves its usability, if only in the ability to put stuff in the back seats that I want to be able to lock up and have it not get wet while still keeping the bed available for truck stuff.
2004? Not going to get “modern” mileage. In a crew cab maybe 12? 15 if he’s lucky. 20 really starts at 2015-16.
SVreX said:In reply to yupididit :
Crew cab 4x4's are much harder to maneuver than 2WD. They sit high, and it's hard to tell where the corners are.
Second gen GM's (2007 +) have HORRIBLE blind spots at the A-pillars.
My 2006 CC 4x4 f250 with the longest bed available was rather easy to park unless I wanted to park really close at Target or the grocery store. But, usually those parks are cramped because E36 M3ty parkers. But, I NEVER park like that in any car.
For now I DD a 2wd excursion. Third row is taken out and there's plenty of room. Haven't really missed a pickup.
SVreX said:In reply to Grtechguy :
I am gonna suggest you rethink 2 of your parameters.
Seats 6: Since your eldest is about to start driving, you have not yet experienced this. But we found it much easier to drive 2 small cars than one large one at that point. You will no longer have the need to haul everyone, your kid can do some driving, plus you will find the family is gonna start heading in several directions at once- MUCH easier with multiple vehicles.
100,000 miles: This is obviously a spec written by a Northerner. Southerners don't care at all about mileage. It's much less important when cars don't rust and are driven their entire lives on roads without potholes. It will unfortunately affect your resale if you are selling in the north, but if you raise this threshold and include a fly-n-drive, you will find many, many more vehicles in your price range.
That’s what I was saying. Then the OP said 98% of the time it will be just him. Regular cab or at most extended cab because the space a crew cab takes in a garage is too silly. Plus making u turns becomes go around the block. Or wait until traffic clears out because at least a couple of back and forth’s
the 6&1/2 foot bed makes it work better. A sheet of plywood fits without hanging over the tailgate. Etc.
the crew cab only has a 6 foot bed. Not the 6&1/2 of the regular cab short box. Plus the crew cab adds enough extra weight that fuel mileage drops a solid 2 mpg
Grtechguy said:I suppose I should mention I live in the HEAVY lake effect snowbelt.
Getting 8-12" overnight of wet sloppy snow is not unheard of.
I can handle 2WD, but it needs something to compensate for winter traction.
Are any on the 2wd models better in the slick than others?
Snow isn’t really a problem if you have good snow tires (Blizzacks). unless things go off road. Or you get ice first. ( which happens often enough ) then a 4x4 really earns its keep. Launching a boat into a lake on a steepish wet sloppy weedy launch ramp is hard. Recovering that same boat is impossible without 4x4
pulling a trailer uphill on a snow covered road is hard enough but when the road stops and dirt or mud happens that’s what a 4x4 does.
Do not make the mistake of putting limited slip in the rear axle. It’s fine if it’s just snow, but ice? Now you’re in trouble. First one way then another until you go around.
frenchyd said:Plus the crew cab adds enough extra weight that fuel mileage drops a solid 2 mpg
WAIT... WHAT? So you're telling me that our truck as a single cab would do 26mpg highway? I don't believe that for a second. Besides, blanket statements like this are silly. There are so many options for engine, transmissions, rear gear and tire size to make that statement completely false.
Also, the 1500 CC is the identical in overall length as the ext cab shortbed.
frenchyd said:Do not make the mistake of putting limited slip in the rear axle. It’s fine if it’s just snow, but ice? Now you’re in trouble. First one way then another until you go around.
Huh? Dude, you're saying some silly stuff. adding the LSD to the crewcab was the best decision I've ever made! it is 100% better on snow and ice. With that extra long wheelbase it's extremely telepathic about whats going on and it VERY hard to spin. I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff.
In reply to pheller :
Wait. Baby in the car seat in the back? Who are you? Mitt Romney? 
docwyte said:Get an SUV and a bike rack. I used to drive wagons and loved my Thule roof rack with bike trays. I still have it, but hefting the bike on top of the much higher SUV roof is a bit of a PITA. So I have the Thule hitch mounted bike rack, which works great and has the added bonus of holding the bikes with their front wheels still attached.
So maybe look at older Tahoes/Yukons/Suburbans
Yeah I am confused as to why an SUV with a hitch mount bike rack isn't the answer unless the OP is carrying more then 4 bikes.
In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
I see that you dont frequent the Jaguar threads! LMAO
In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
Bob. Sorry you are just wrong. Look at the fuel mileage stickers between a regular cab and a crew cab if you doubt me. Plus look at the weight difference!
Yes a longer wheelbase adds stability however a limited slip/ positraction removes it on ice. Like I said on snow they are fine. On snow covered ice you are all over the place as one side locks and unlocks etc.
if you doubt me please drive up here. There is still enough ice on the lakes so I can show you. Please remember I’ve lived up here in the frozen tundra for nearly 70 years. ( so far) And we get snow from October through May.
My DD is an F150 4x4, single cab long bed. It doesn't suck in parking lots, but it ain't no Camry either.
I think it has a lot to do with what you're used to. I have learned to park a little farther away which makes swinging into a spot without a three-point approach a better thing. It does kinda chap my butt though when I pass up closer spots because the person that parked their xB right on the line didn't save me enough room.
Driving dad's crew cab dually long bed 4x4? Good luck. Park in the next zip code.
frenchyd said:In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
Bob. Sorry you are just wrong. Look at the fuel mileage stickers between a regular cab and a crew cab if you doubt me. Plus look at the weight difference!
Yes a longer wheelbase adds stability however a limited slip/ positraction removes it on ice. Like I said on snow they are fine. On snow covered ice you are all over the place as one side locks and unlocks etc.
if you doubt me please drive up here. There is still enough ice on the lakes so I can show you. Please remember I’ve lived up here in the frozen tundra for nearly 70 years. ( so far) And we get snow from October through May.
I've lived my entire life in the saltbelt and winters. Lots of snow covered ice. I'd prefer a rwd lsd vehicle over anything else at that point. NEVER had an issue with the LSD causing traction issues and spinning the trucks (or cars for that matter).
As for fuel economy, THIS says you are wrong. I still have the window sticker when we purchased our 06 Sierra. It was rated for 16/21 in 2006 for a 2wd 1500 4.8L auto. It didn't matter what bed configuration or cab configuration. The window stickers were all the same based on engine/trans/2wd or 4.
nutherjrfan said:In reply to pheller :
Wait. Baby in the car seat in the back? Who are you? Mitt Romney?
You misunderstand me. I've got a crew cab truck, the baby is in the back seat. Not in the bed.
We can have 4 adults in the truck with the car seat in the back (seat), positioned in the center.
In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
dude.. you live in indiana.. that's like venice beach compared to minnesota. come on..
What are used Ridgeline's going for these days?
AWD, 4 door, drives like a car and easy to park. Should be good enough for bikes.
Fueled by Caffeine said:In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
dude.. you live in indiana.. that's like venice beach compared to minnesota. come on..
that sounds funny to say until I'm physically snowed in.... which has happened at least twice every winter except this year. This year has been super light thankfully. I'm tired of winters.
In reply to Bob the REAL oil guy. :
I thought you got some heavy snow early this year?
As far as positraction and ice covered snow I guess we have to disagree. I know I feel comfortable doing the freeway speed limit on snow covered ice with an open rear end and 4x4 but with positraction in the same conditions the rear end will lock and unlock constantly driving first one wheel then another.
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