This is all very un-Canadian like behavior.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliament-hill-attack-1-gunman-dead-after-soldier-shot-at-national-war-memorial-1.2808710
So far the only person dead is one of the gunman, but all hell seems to be breaking loose up there.
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Wrong, seems that the soldier who was shot has died. Sad.
Update: it seems the parliament's own sergeant-at-arms is the one who put down the dead shooter.
http://www.cp24.com/news/mps-credit-sergeant-at-arms-for-saving-lives-in-parliament-hill-shootings-1.2065796#ixzz3GtV5KW00
Here's a good source for live updates: http://www.reddit.com/live/ts4r8m1g99ys
Must be serious. They cancelled the NHL game tonight 
Radical people are everywhere, this is why you continue on not in fear. It prevents them from winning. 
And this is right after you had a shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there.
That would be a recently converted Moslem shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there. Denying reality won't make it go away.
Dr. Hess wrote: That would be a recently converted Moslem shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there. Denying reality won't make it go away.
Does it make a difference whether he did it over a crazy misinterpretation of an ancient book or because voices from his breakfast cereal told him to? To me it doesn't.
GameboyRMH wrote:Dr. Hess wrote: That would be a recently converted Moslem shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there. Denying reality won't make it go away.Does it make a difference whether he did it over a crazy misinterpretation of an ancient book or because voices from his breakfast cereal told him to? To me it doesn't.
Wait a minute you mean snap, crackle, and pop didn't tell me to buy a miata?
If it's one guy getting messages from his lucky charms, you can't play the "us vs them" game. So it's not as much fun. We'll find out more about this guy as time goes on, right now it's just unfounded speculation. Which is the foundation of news outlets.
Looks like things are calming down. The threat's over, the security in place did what it needed to do. Turns out the Sergeant At Arms is more than just a ceremonial position. There was a bit of a freakout and an erroneous report of an incident at the nearby Rideau Centre mall, but that's been retracted. It's a real shame about that honor guard soldier. Senseless.
For those not familiar with Ottawa, this was more-or-less the equivalent of someone storming the House of Representatives.
GameboyRMH wrote:Dr. Hess wrote: That would be a recently converted Moslem shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there. Denying reality won't make it go away.Does it make a difference whether he did it over a crazy misinterpretation of an ancient book or because voices from his breakfast cereal told him to? To me it doesn't.
Since you can actively profile the former and not really the latter in most cases yes it does make a difference. Broken brain chemistry is not something you choose, trust me I have been living with it for 33 years and I have yet to snap.
GameboyRMH wrote: Does it make a difference whether he did it over a crazy misinterpretation of an ancient book or because voices from his breakfast cereal told him to? To me it doesn't.
Considering the ratio imbalance of the two, perhaps it should.
GameboyRMH wrote:Dr. Hess wrote: That would be a recently converted Moslem shiny happy person running down soldiers with a car up there. Denying reality won't make it go away.Does it make a difference whether he did it over a crazy misinterpretation of an ancient book or because voices from his breakfast cereal told him to? To me it doesn't.
...agreed
Does it make a difference if you kill someone in a way meeting the definition of a “hate crime” verses simply killing them?
A train of thought that’s beyond my comprehension leads some of the same people that think hate crimes are unique to conclude that gunning down a bunch of people while chanting allahu akbar is simply work place violence.
In my mind, “equal protection under that law” answers the question…killing is killing.
Well, here is how my new blockbuster book is going to spin it.
"This is a false flag operation perpetrated by the CIA and CSIS in an effort to drum up support for the WAR against ISIS and any other Middle East threat that might appear on the radar at any time."
Of course, this assumes two or more shooters working in concert. If it turns out to be a lone-gunman speaking to the God in the CrackerJack box, my book will require some re-thinking.
Keith Tanner wrote: Turns out the Sergeant At Arms is more than just a ceremonial position.
I think quite a few people might be surprised at just how many of those "ceremonial" military guards are locked and loaded. Nothing more useless than an unloaded gun, as our American friends like to say.
NOHOME wrote: Well, here is how my new blockbuster book is going to spin it. "This is a false flag operation perpetrated by the CIA and CSIS in an effort to drum up support for the WAR against ISIS and any other Middle East threat that might appear on the radar at any time." Of course, this assumes two or more shooters working in concert. If it turns out to be a lone-gunman speaking to the God in the CrackerJack box, my book will require some re-thinking.
Watch it, you might get hit with copyright infringement from anyone of a dozen Pearl Harbor conspiracy screenplays or 911 conspiracy screenplays or My Missing Sock conspiracy screenplay or anything casted with Cage or Seagal or - - - Oh Berkley, just drop it.
All I can say is: sorry y'all are getting some of the craziness. 
These nutcases, regardless of motivation, are getting more widespread unfortunately.
Streetwiseguy wrote:Keith Tanner wrote: Turns out the Sergeant At Arms is more than just a ceremonial position.I think quite a few people might be surprised at just how many of those "ceremonial" military guards are locked and loaded. Nothing more useless than an unloaded gun, as our American friends like to say.
I wouldn't be. I've been one of the Ceremonial Guard on Parliament Hill.
Sorry for the loss.
But it's interesting.. In the US a murder of 1 by another man, even a low level shooting rampage is pretty low level news.
Curmudgeon wrote: All I can say is: sorry y'all are getting some of the craziness.
Not really. We had a guy wander into the Prime Minister's bedroom a couple of decades ago. Around the same timeframe, someone tried to drive a Jeep through the front doors of the Centre Block. We had a bus hijacked and driven on to Parliament Hill 25 years ago leading to a hostage situation. And a guy tried to throw dynamite into the House of Commons but accidentally blew himself up instead. That last one? About 50 years back.
So, no, I don't think it's any more widespread than it used to be.
I'm not thinking of the garden variety nutcase like the guys who keep jumping the White House walls, those will always be around. I'm referring to the alleged terrorist connection, i.e. like the Navy yard shooter a couple years back, the kid beheaded in NJ etc, there are other lone wolves allegedly tied to Islamic nutjobs. We have seen a few instances of it down here and it looks like it might be headed north as well.
Another tragedy.
I'm just waiting for the inevitable spin by pro- and anti-firearms factions, especially since it happened in Canada where gun ownership works a bit differently.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Sorry for the loss. But it's interesting.. In the US a murder of 1 by another man, even a low level shooting rampage is pretty low level news.
If it happened in the Capitol building you can bet it would be pretty huge news.
Another guy tried jumping the White House fence, although this time he only made it a few hundred feet before the dogs got him.
Looks like the Ottawa shooter was both an Islamic nutjob and a regular ol'-fashioned nutjob:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/canada-shooter/
In reply to Dr. Hess:
Nah, I'm pointing out the simple fallacy everyone is making...."terror" only works if it causes people to be in fear and end up less free. Believing in a 1500, 2000, or 4000 year old "man in sky" story doesn't really matter at all.
The 'invisible man in the sky' part becomes a problem when people use that as justification for their actions. That's the problem with the Islamic terrorists; they warp the words of the Koran to justify actions such as this.
Some of those who get the 'word' (for lack of a better term) might be like this guy, allegedly a 'lone wolf loser' with mental problems, with luck they typically don't have the resources to do tremendous damage. Or they might get hold of a pretty smart one like al-Awlaki from a few years back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki That's when it starts getting scary.
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