Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: sigh, ok. I'm on my own then. berkeley I hate car people sometimes.
I hate everybody and everything...its a more efficient way of life
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Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: sigh, ok. I'm on my own then. berkeley I hate car people sometimes.
I hate everybody and everything...its a more efficient way of life.
In reply to Stefan (Not Bruce):
Just taking the piss man.. chill. I poke fun at everyone.. even myself. It's part of my patented "How to live a sane life" program. You can purchase that program by sticking a self addressed stamped envelope to the back of a 65 dodge coronet 2 door post with a hemi and 4 speed sent to :
FBC ventures Seattle, Wa 98109
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: sigh, ok. I'm on my own then. berkeley I hate car people sometimes.
There always has been and always will be car people with a holier than thou attitude. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
My wife drives a Mustang, so she's a lousy driver.
I drive a Samurai, it's going to sneak into my room late one night and kill me. Everyone says so.
My truck doesn't have a diesel and everyone knows gas engines can't tow anything over 5 pounds.
I hate my BMW, so apparently I hate all cars and should walk everywhere.
You couldn't give me a Miata, so...
The list goes on and on.
I suggest spending less time caring about the drivel running out of other peoples mouths and do what you want.
Im pretty sure ive been tagged in all of these on facebook at this point. 8 diffrent fox chassis cars, one of them over 400 horsepower on nitrous and burnouts are my favorite way to goof off. I have yet to kill a curb or crowd.
My friends are dicks! Guess learning how to drive in a sandrail teaches you alot about car control with the tires spinning.
Trans_Maro wrote: They -have- to show off. How else will they prove that they didn't buy "girl car".
I have a mustang and a Miata. Do I need two neck tattoos?
Cooper_Tired wrote:Trans_Maro wrote: They -have- to show off. How else will they prove that they didn't buy "girl car".I have a mustang and a Miata. Do I need two neck tattoos?
one neck tattoo, one earring
In reply to Stefan (Not Bruce):
You do realize that "Why do you hate America?" is always a joke, right? I figure that is one for which I do not have to employ the sarcasm button.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed! I've been catching crap for eons because of the vehiclechoices I've made. I takethem about as personal as Ghandi.
Hey, I take Ghandi very personally. He was a real SOB.
ultraclyde wrote: Hey, I take Ghandi very personally. He was a real SOB.
Your face is personal. Nah... takin crap too seriously should be a crime. Ain't nobody gettin out of this life alive, so better make the most and enjoy. If that means laughing at dumb people doing dumb things then so be it!
I "transitioned" from a Miata to a Mustang. I can't win.
mad_machine wrote: It is the ham fisted drivers who can't feel what the car is doing or are doing a redline clutch drop where the rear wheel's simply overpower the grip of the fronts that brings us to the whole "mustangs hitting things"
Found this today.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/LZXBjVIrR08
Now, at what point would a non-meathead have backed out? The drivetrain rumble started LOOOOOOOONG before the critical speed. Probably vibrated an awful lot too. "Nah, can't be bad, let's keep it matted! What could possibly go wrong?"
This kind of driver is exactly why cars are tuned ultra safe, with all kinds of extra safety factors added, and with torque management and safety nannies. The speed limiter on this car is below 120mph from Ford, because the driveshaft can't handle much more speed than that.
I remember a discussion on this forum about that driveshaft incident some time ago.
I seem to recall that someone with an engineering skill set did the math and the overspeed would have exceeded the design limit by multiple amounts. Something about the forces increasing exponentially, etc.
But it ties in with the whole "person gets sideways, person doesn't correct in time, or enough, or even at all, and then Bad Things Happen" bit that started this whole thread.
I mean, I know it's not Mustang specific, but danged if the car doesn't attract this kind of inattentive... "driver" is not really the correct word but we'll go with it for now.
Good drivers would correct in time, good drivers wouldn't lift, good drivers wouldn't ignore the ominous humming/buzzing noise increasing with speed...
In reply to mapper:
That is equal parts hilarious and wondering just HOW BAD it smelled.
Because I'm nothing if not self deprecatory, I'll allow that some meatheads also have RX-7s. So here's a meathead in an RX-7 doing a clutch burnout (notice the smoke from under the car just before the climax of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/syx_7SH2loc
Remember boys and girls: If you're doing a burnout for anything other than preheating the tires for a launch, you're kind of a dumbass and worthy of being pointed/laughed at.
Also? Scattershields are a really good idea.
Trans_Maro wrote: I remember a discussion on this forum about that driveshaft incident some time ago. I seem to recall that someone with an engineering skill set did the math and the overspeed would have exceeded the design limit by multiple amounts. Something about the forces increasing exponentially, etc.
I've tested mine to those speeds and it was fine even with 115k miles on it. But it's a V8, maybe they're different.
Knurled wrote: I mean, I know it's not Mustang specific, but danged if the car doesn't attract this kind of inattentive... "driver" is not really the correct word but we'll go with it for now.
It's easy to identify them, just look for the neck tattoo
Let me explain my neck tattoo comments as they seem to have garnered some attention in this thread. I know there are probably at least a couple people here who have tattoos and likely at least one or two that have them on their neck. I am not attacking you personally, while my comments may be generalizing or stereotyping they are meant entirely in jest and not meant to be demeaning. I'm sorry if you take them personally, honestly though if you do take offense, grow a sense of humor. You chose to be part of the stereotype by getting a tattoo on your neck
I have a friend who is classic "mustang guy". He knows just enough about cars to be dangerous, has just enough driving skill to not be dead or killed anyone else, yet. Full of bravado, biggest, baddest, toughest motherberkeleyer that ever lived in his own mind. He spews ignorance every time he talks about...well, anything really. And obviously he regards the mustang as the pinnacle of the automobile. He also happens to have tattoos covering his entire neck. The first time I met him he walked up to me and started talking all kinds of BS about this, that and the other. I looked him dead in the eye and asked him if he knew the quickest way to identify an idiot. He just stared at me, I said they have neck tattoos and drive mustangs. He cracked a huge smile and I've been trying to get rid of him since then, it's been years. So any time "mustang guy" comes up I immediately think of him and his neck tattoos and I can't help but make a wise crack about it.
In reply to ultraclyde:
V8 driveshaft is definitely different from V6.
Knurled wrote: In reply to ultraclyde: V8 driveshaft is definitely different from V6.
Good to know.
Knurled wrote: That is what I mean by lack of driving ability... not recognizing the need to do something with that steering wheel, or not doing enough with it. And then, absolute worst, letting off the throttle while sideways, which WILL require a rapid and immediate steering correction WHEN the rear end grabs.
That takes practice. I've been preaching autocross and rallycross as safe places to test the limits of your driving ability since I caught on myself. I also tell people if they are worried about hitting a cone and scuffing their paint that they should do a skidpad session or two.
Heck, everybody should do a skidpad session, because they are really fun.
Brett_Murphy wrote:Knurled wrote: That is what I mean by lack of driving ability... not recognizing the need to do something with that steering wheel, or not doing enough with it. And then, absolute worst, letting off the throttle while sideways, which WILL require a rapid and immediate steering correction WHEN the rear end grabs.That takes practice. I've been preaching autocross and rallycross as safe places to test the limits of your driving ability since I caught on myself. I also tell people if they are worried about hitting a cone and scuffing their paint that they should do a skidpad session or two. Heck, everybody should do a skidpad session, because they are really fun.
If you want to show somebody the results of staying on it a bit too long, and then giving up when its too late, go out to the season opener at your local short track. Every year, there will be somebody come out of 4 a bit too sideways, then countersteer, then give up and nose the car into the wall under the flag stand.
Every. Single. Year. Either back out sooner, or hold it to the floor until you are backwards. E36 M3, Nigel Mansell broke his friggin back at Phoenix doing that the first time out in an Indycar on an oval, and he was the F1 world champion at the time.
At our Cars and Coffee today, I heard a car in the distance rev it's engine and squeal a little tire. I assumed it wasn't a Mustang because I heard neither a crash or people screaming.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: or maybe its just me.
Maybe you need to take things less seriously.
I've owned and driven nearly every vehicle I've made fun of over the years, even a V6 Mustang and a Fiero (both hairdresser cars).
I had 2nd gen firebirds for a very long time and learned to embrace the stereotype and have a little fun with it. Nothing like rolling in to an autocross with the T-tops out, cutoffs, wife beater and motley crue on the stereo.
Learn to laugh at it instead of taking it so personal.
In reply to ultraclyde:
The driveshaft thread is here: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/135-mph-driveshaft-failure/43461/page1/
Math is on page 3, apparently the design limit was exceeded by 45%
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