Where have all the cruise ships gone.

I read a blurb about the cruise industry and where all the cruise ships have ended up. That lead to a little more digging and I came across this site.

www.marinetraffic.com

A little sorting and you find clumps of cruise ships anchored all over the world.

Bahamas Anchorage

Singapore Anchorage

They have sent their housekeeping employees home. Left the ship employees onboard and anchored them everywhere. They apparently cruise into port every month or so to stock up on consumables. 

If you turn off all the filters, it is simply amazing how many ships are cruising the world. 

That's a lot of ships.

I thought it was pretty interesting and figured I'd share. 

The unspecified ships are interesting: research vessels maybe

A lot of them are going to the scrapyards. This is Turkey

We were holding out for our 125% upgrade bonus from our canceled April 2020 Royal Caribbean cruise, but since nothing appears to be changing in the near future, I just requested a refund of our original ticket amount.

In reply to NOHOME :

I was just looking into it. I'm amazed they are scrapping them considering they don't get E36 M3 for them for how much they cost new. 

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NOHOME :

I was just looking into it. I'm amazed they are scrapping them considering they don't get E36 M3 for them for how much they cost new. 

That's kind of what I was thinking.  It can't cost that much to mothball one for a while, compared to scrapping it now and building new in 3-4 years.

I wonder how many of the "unspecified" are various military ships running normal GPS systems when not "doing military stuff".  

Also what is going on here?  Unspecified ship party!!

In reply to nocones :

Probably monkey knife fights in international waters. 

nocones said:

I wonder how many of the "unspecified" are various military ships running normal GPS systems when not "doing military stuff".  

Also what is going on here?  Unspecified ship party!!

This would be my guess:
https://apnews.com/article/5a670a52a5569aa407f39e08cb897e11

Duke said:

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NOHOME :

I was just looking into it. I'm amazed they are scrapping them considering they don't get E36 M3 for them for how much they cost new. 

That's kind of what I was thinking.  It can't cost that much to mothball one for a while, compared to scrapping it now and building new in 3-4 years.

 

I'm seeing tens of millions to billion to build one, and like 4-10mil in scrapping. 

In reply to Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) :

Exactly.  And it would cost what, half a million a year to sandbag it somewhere?  If that?

good riddence, in my opinion.  Who wants to get stuck on a ship with 7000+ guests all determined to have a good time and an unknown number of crew who are at their wits end trying to satisfy those guests.  

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) said:

Duke said:

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NOHOME :

I was just looking into it. I'm amazed they are scrapping them considering they don't get E36 M3 for them for how much they cost new. 

That's kind of what I was thinking.  It can't cost that much to mothball one for a while, compared to scrapping it now and building new in 3-4 years.

 

I'm seeing tens of millions to billion to build one, and like 4-10mil in scrapping. 

Could be a number of reasons for sending an older ship to the scrap yard. Has the company already made their profit from it? Is it close to end of life anyway and a replacement is in the works? It costs money to mothball a ship as well.  While we make fun of bean-counters, it's their job to run these numbers and make budget estimations. 

In reply to mad_machine (Forum Supporter) :

Apparently 28 million people who spent $126 Billion to do just that. 

mad_machine (Forum Supporter) said:

good riddence, in my opinion.  Who wants to get stuck on a ship with 7000+ guests all determined to have a good time and an unknown number of crew who are at their wits end trying to satisfy those guests.  

I do. Love cruising. Can't wait to rebook our cancelled one. 

mad_machine (Forum Supporter) said:

good riddence, in my opinion.  Who wants to get stuck on a ship with 7000+ guests all determined to have a good time and an unknown number of crew who are at their wits end trying to satisfy those guests.  

No dumber than a casino or Disney.  Different people like different things.  We've only been on 1 short cruise, but it was relaxing enough we were willing to go again with family this time.  I probably wouldn't do it every year, or even every 5 years, but some enjoy it.

I want to purchase one to start a BDSM cruise line called "cruising for a bruising" and we'll have our own private island to visit as a port of call, Knots Landing. 

Wonder if they could just park them on poverty stricken locations to be used as housing and take the tax write off instead?

I'm kind of torn on it. I've never been on a cruise, but always wanted to. I love ships, especially big ones, and I'm also a big fan of tropical weather and alcohol. But.... even before Covid those things were floating disease factories. And the stories about how their workers are treated are pretty awful.

Found another interesting site.  The cluster of ships in the lower left.  The lower right ones are fishing, the rest are pleasure.  That is Cortez Banks.  If you don't know what that is, see the second picture.  It must be going now.

As we all know, parking anything made of metal in salt water for any extended period of time does it no good.

There is what they call "Hot Shutdown", where maintenance is on board and mechanical systems are operating and maintained.

Then they go to "Cold shutdown" where the ship is just shutoff. Getting it back on line is no easy feat from what I was reading.

And yes, like all capital goods, depreciation is a thing to the bean counters. If there is no depreciation to be had, then you question the value of storing the ship. Kinda the whole point of why depreciation is a thing.

I have mixed feelings on cruises. I enjoyed the one we did with friends and I'd think about doing another one with the same group.

But at the same time, envirnomentally they are terrible and can have some pretty bad effects on some locations (Venice for example).

captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

I want to purchase one to start a BDSM cruise line called "cruising for a bruising" and we'll have our own private island to visit as a port of call, Knots Landing. 

You may be surprised to find out just what you can book in a cruise these days

Mrs. P was trying to talk me into another river cruise, so I'm not heartbroken that they're shut down

In reply to Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) :

Floating disease factories, indeed. My wife wound up contracting C-DIFF. It's basically a contagious bowel inflammation, we think it came from the buffet.

Even though, we still had one planned for early November this year and we just got our refund processed a week ago.