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Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/15 11:43 a.m.

Keep in mind that it's a lot easier to work in Utah if you go to the correct church.

I'm a fan of GJ, CO. Mountain biking? World-class. You can ride to Moab offroad from here if you'd like, and Fruita is next door. You would not believe the trails we have in town. Hiking and camping is fantastic. The climate can be hot in the summer - it's a dry heat - but all you need do is head up in the mountains. And without the nasty traffic that clogs up I-70 for hours if you try to do the same from Denver.

Lake can be an issue, but we are 3 hours from Lake Powell and a couple of hours from Blue Mesa. It's not the most liberal area - it's ranch country - but as someone who comes from a country with universal health care, it's not a problem.

Austin is the Boulder of Texas

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
10/28/15 11:49 a.m.

GJ is high on my list. Every time you guys post a job opening I curse the fact I don't know more about Miatas and have American sized debt to fund.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/15 11:56 a.m.

If you want to make a lot of money, GJ isn't the place. My wife could probably make 30% more if we lived in Denver. But it's also a lot less expensive to live here than some other areas, and the quality of life is better.

This video was shot to be about Miatas. But it also kinda highlights where we live. What it doesn't show is that for the track shots, we just showed up
https://www.youtube.com/embed/S9OptgOxzcY?rel=0

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
10/28/15 12:00 p.m.

the ultimate height of the cash pile is irrelevant beyond filling in the debt hole I've dug and enabling the fairly reasonable quality of life I prefer. I'm not out to get rich, I'd rather live.

Great video. That's definitely gorgeous. Ever since my friend trailered his MSM out there for you guys to trouble shoot he's talked about moving that direction. That's kind of what got me looking.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe SuperDork
10/28/15 12:20 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: If you want to make a lot of money, GJ isn't the place. My wife could probably make 30% more if we lived in Denver. But it's also a lot less expensive to live here than some other areas, and the quality of life is better. This video was shot to be about Miatas. But it also kinda highlights where we live. What it doesn't show is that for the track shots, we just showed up https://www.youtube.com/embed/S9OptgOxzcY?rel=0

Big sur man that sounds right up your alley, less work in that area though for sure.

Also Kieth you guys built a catfish. Is there a tread somewhere on the net with pictures. Its the next car on my list for sure.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
10/28/15 1:40 p.m.
ultraclyde wrote: We lived in Rome in 2000. It was like living in a Steven King novel. Google Ray Brent Marsh, that seemed to be the kind of thing that was normal in Rome.

Holy moly. I remember him, but didn't realize he was from that area.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
10/28/15 2:07 p.m.

In reply to spitfirebill:

It was two counties North of Rome, one county north of the mill I worked at outside of Summerville. I suspect that there were relatives of some of my coworkers thrown in the woods... The story broke the week after we moved back home. Before they even reported the county I told my wife :you wait, that's outside Rome." I could tell. That's one of a BUNCH of stories I have from that year.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
10/28/15 2:17 p.m.

"Of the most liberal cities, Detroit heads up the list with 93.96% of voters casting votes for liberal candidates in the 2004 presidential election, followed by Gary, Indiana with 93.08% of the voting going to liberal presidential candidates, and Berkeley, California in third with a 92.76% total for liberals. Other cities in the top twenty five in descending order are the following: the District of Columbia; Oakland, CA; Inglewood, CA; Newark, NJ; Cambridge, MA; San Francisco, CA; Flint, MI; Cleveland, OH; Hartford, CT; Paterson, NJ; Baltimore, MD; New Haven, CT; Seattle, WA; Chicago, IL; Philadelphia, PA; Birmingham, AL; St. Louis, MO; New York, NY; Providence, RI; Minneapolis, MN; Boston, MA; and Buffalo, NY.

Provo, UT heads up the top twenty-five conservative cities with 86% of the vote going to conservative presidential candidates in 2004, followed by Lubbock, TX at 74.81% conservative support, and Abilene, TX in third with 72.80% of its voters choosing conservative candidates. The remaining cities in the top twenty-five in descending order are: Hialeah, FL; Plano, TX; Colorado Springs, CO; Gilbert, AZ; Bakersfield, CA; Lafayette, LA; Orange, CA; Escondido, CA; Allentown, PA; Mesa, AZ; Arlington, TX; Peoria, AZ; Cape Coral, FL; Garden Grove, CA; Simi Valley, CA; Corona, CA; Clearwater, FL; West Valley City, UT; Oklahoma City, OK; Overland Park, KS; Anchorage, AK; and Huntington Beach, CA."

You said Asheville, that was going to be my suggestion. I like where I live in Falls Church, but way too much traffic. When I visited Colorado I thought Denver was like Austin in Texas. You can find what other parts of the world use "Texas" as a slang term for now to understand that context.

I was going to say Portland Oregon as well. I would avoid the Southwest and southern California not for political reasons but for livability. They are in a big drought.

Good luck, watching to see where you land and what you think of where ever that may be. :)

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/15 2:54 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: Also Kieth you guys built a catfish. Is there a tread somewhere on the net with pictures. Its the next car on my list for sure.

We've built two. There are some pictures on our Facebook page, but no real build thread or diary.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
10/28/15 3:26 p.m.
Flight Service wrote: I would avoid the Southwest and southern California not for political reasons but for livability. They are in a big drought.

This had sort of crossed my mind. I think given our changing climate (no matter who or what is to blame) that this will only get worse, at least in my lifetime.

Keith, what's your experience with water or lack thereof in Grand Junction?

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke SuperDork
10/28/15 3:45 p.m.

Watching with interest.

Jim Pettengill
Jim Pettengill HalfDork
10/28/15 3:51 p.m.

More open-water info about GJ area - about two hours south is Ridgway Reservoir, not a big lake like Blue Mesa, but big enough for good boating. Lots of high mountain lakes for fishing as well, on Grand Mesa and in the Telluride- Silverton area. Good medical facility, great sportscar roads, wonderful 4WD trails that can vary from easy/moderate but outstandingly beautiful, to super rough if you want it. And a fun little racetrack, and there's this Miata place, now what's it called?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/15 4:00 p.m.

I came here with a couple of whitewater kayaks and a history of windsurfing. The Colorado river runs through GJ, but it's pretty sedate and you could almost walk across it in the summer. I've been out on it a couple of times, but generally my recreation has moved away from water unless we're out camping somewhere.

I did forget Ridgway, a co-worker has a small cruiser sailboat that he's taken up there on a regular basis. Since he got his VW Westfalia, however, he's been sailing the asphalt instead.

Oh, one nice thing about GJ (and the desert environs): no bugs!

92dxman
92dxman Dork
10/28/15 10:32 p.m.

Mrs dx and I were in Colorado this past weekend and really liked golden. Id consider moving out there in a heartbeat.

bquiggle
bquiggle New Reader
10/28/15 11:03 p.m.

DO NOT come to Colorado...........

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
10/28/15 11:35 p.m.

This area here (Reno NV/Carson City/Lake Tahoe) would tick most of the boxes, apart from maybe the winter temperatures. Tons of mountain biking to be had, sailing can be had at the lake but is a tad on the expensive side, plenty of nature, low humidity and the number of days with temperatures into the three figures in summer is generally pretty low.

Downside is that jobs aren't necessarily that easy to find, although Tesla is building a big factory out here. There is some high tech around here, too, connected to gaming and defense.

Oh, and the closest three tracks are Sonoma, Thunderhill and Laguna Seca.

Not to mention an ample supply of rust-free cars.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
10/29/15 7:01 a.m.
Don49 wrote: Look at Prescott, Arizona. Foothills of the mountains, great climate.

My wife and I looked at Prescott a few years ago. Since the Californians discovered it, real estate has sky rocketed. Water is a concern but it is all over the southwest. From folks I've talked to that moved there, they miss colors, miss green and seasonal changes (Prescott has 3 seasons) and looking at brown all the time is tiring.

I'm still looking around, I don't see me maintaining this 1894 built home 10 & 20 years from now.

Dan

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
10/29/15 9:03 a.m.

Tucson AZ ticks almost all of your boxes aside from the summer heat. It gets hot for 2 1/2 months but other than that its great.

In Arizona, Sierra Vista is an overlooked place alot of times. If you're former military there's an Army base for your convenience and an AFB in Tucson if you need that. Fantastic autocross group there and another good one in Tucson just 45-60 min away. Cycling is popular, winters can get cold but maybe a few days a year with snow on the ground in town and summers are around mid 90s usually. Plenty of hiking, camping and hunting to be had there.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/29/15 9:11 a.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: This area here (Reno NV/Carson City/Lake Tahoe) would tick most of the boxes, apart from maybe the winter temperatures. Tons of mountain biking to be had, sailing can be had at the lake but is a tad on the expensive side, plenty of nature, low humidity and the number of days with temperatures into the three figures in summer is generally pretty low. Downside is that jobs aren't necessarily that easy to find, although Tesla is building a big factory out here. There is some high tech around here, too, connected to gaming and defense. Oh, and the closest three tracks are Sonoma, Thunderhill and Laguna Seca. Not to mention an ample supply of rust-free cars.

I may need to visit out there myself sometime than!

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Dork
10/29/15 10:58 a.m.

I got Valley Fever when my father was stationed in Tucson. Now my lungs are scarred for life. Doesn't really affect my breathing, but any time I get an xray I have to tell them that or they think I've got TB.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltimaDork
10/29/15 11:00 a.m.
Lancer007 wrote: Tucson AZ ticks almost all of your boxes aside from the summer heat. It gets hot for 2 1/2 months but other than that its great.

When I was in Mexico we'd head back over the boarder many weekends and Tucson was only 4 hours from Hermosillo so the closest place. OK, I was 20 something then so my view maybe a bit different now, but the place just shut down at 10:00pm, bars closed the place was dead. None of us could believe it for a collage town, we figured it was the strong bible bashing influence, but it's only appeal was its proximity to the border.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltimaDork
10/29/15 11:03 a.m.
DrBoost wrote: Try www.findyourspot.com. After a series of questions it'll spit out 20 or 25 possibilities. I've actually been able to visit a few of the places it has chosen for me and I must say, seems spot on.

Love it. It tells me I should live in:
Hartford, CT
New Haven, CT
Northampton, MA
Providence, RI
Brattleboro, VT
Burlington, VT
Little Rock, AR
Amherst, MA
Boston, MA
Albuquerque, NM
Middelbury, VT
Woodstock, VT
Essex, CT
Shelburn Falls, MA
Williamstown, MA
Portland, OR
Johnson, VT
Montpelier, VT
Eureka SPrings, AR
Danbury, CT
Kankakee, Il
Nantucket, MA
Worcester, MA
Fort Atkinson, WI

I haven't been to many of those places but I think my views on religion and politics played a large part in this.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
10/29/15 11:13 a.m.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

I boat raced in Kankakee, Il. The nationals are held there. A couple of good pizza joints too.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
10/29/15 11:20 a.m.

I got pretty much every corner of the country other than California. Guess I'm pretty content wherever I go.

Kankakee is boring.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/29/15 11:40 a.m.
DrBoost wrote: Try www.findyourspot.com. After a series of questions it'll spit out 20 or 25 possibilities. I've actually been able to visit a few of the places it has chosen for me and I must say, seems spot on.

I ran through that. It was kind of interesting, but of the places it gave me, about 6 were in Alaska (3000 miles away), and 1 was less than 30 miles down the road, in a place I wouldn't want to live.

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