Some bait for the trolls. 
Some bait for the trolls.
Gee except for the Laptop/battery thing I don't know where he got any of his material.
same topic but not really safe for work, lots of bad words: linky
The other day, I was using my dad's Apple Laptop. Whenever I'd try to click on something at the bottom of the screen the little tray would pop up. My dad's response was "Oh, it does that." I tried opening another tab in the web browser, and clicked on the wrong thing. It opened up a window for browsing files with no explanation of what the window was, or any buttons to close it. I could not close that window! Apparently it required a combination of three keys to close this useless file browsing window.
WTF?
The computer wasn't malfunctioning, it was designed to act like that!
Xceler8x wrote: Crash Differently. Some bait for the trolls.
AHhahahaha! That was great! 
Salanis wrote: The other day, I was using my dad's Apple Laptop. Whenever I'd try to click on something at the bottom of the screen the little tray would pop up. My dad's response was "Oh, it does that." I tried opening another tab in the web browser, and clicked on the wrong thing. It opened up a window for browsing files with no explanation of what the window was, or any buttons to close it. I could not close that window! Apparently it required a combination of three keys to close this useless file browsing window. WTF? The computer wasn't malfunctioning, it was designed to act like that!
No it wasn't. It was configured to act like that.
Salanis wrote: The other day, I was using my dad's Apple Laptop. Whenever I'd try to click on something at the bottom of the screen the little tray would pop up. My dad's response was "Oh, it does that."
That's a completely changeable preference. You can vary size of the icons, what's shown, what order they're in, how they pop up, whether they stay popped or disappear, enlarge when you mouse over them, etc. If you guys don't know / don't care how set that preference, it does not mean the computer is malfunctioning or badly designed.
I tried opening another tab in the web browser, and clicked on the wrong thing. It opened up a window for browsing files with no explanation of what the window was, or any buttons to close it. I could not close that window! Apparently it required a combination of three keys to close this useless file browsing window. WTF? The computer wasn't malfunctioning, it was designed to act like that!
Hit "escape".
Duke wrote: Hit "escape".
Hey, that's really simple... if you already know to do that.
Well, it's not my computer and I still did not care for that interface. I will stick to my cheap gaming platform.
I've had both. I built my own gaming rigs for years, overclocked and custom cooled freaks. Now I'm running all Mac. Honestly, the PCs ran fine. I used Windows 98SE and the computers were rock solid. Did everything I wanted, ran 24/7. Then I fell so far behind that I was going to be forced to upgrade to XP. What was a great gaming rig was going to become a crippled lump thanks to the resource-sucking pile that XP was. I use XP at work, and have to maintain my parent's XP box. Every few months I have to go to my parent's house and bring the box back to life. It's locked down tight, but XP just grinds itself to death over time and use.
So I dumped Windows completely and have only Macs at home now. In the year I've had them I have had to do zero maintenance, even reboots are only when the power goes out. I missed gaming, so I now bootcamp my MacBook to XP Black for LAN parties. It's a hoot watching all my friends watch in disbelief as I plug into the LAN and boot up with everything working perfectly. Games run great. I don't give a crap about the XP install, if it gives me trouble I just wipe the partition and dump a ghosted image back in (all from the OSX side).
Price wise, yeah, I can build a PC for dirt cheap ($150 or less). In fact I'm looking at building a NAS from a PC, but it will be running FreeNAS. Macs cost more period, and they are a niche market. I don't think they are necessarily "better" but I'm at a point in my geek life that I just want it to work. Partially it was packaging too. My MacMini is the perfect Home Theater PC setup for me. It's my DVD player, my jukebox, and my TV all in one (it's hooked to a projector in my living room). It sits quietly on the shelf out of sight, waiting for input from my wireless keyboard and mouse. You'd never know it was there except from the PS2 controllers hanging from the USB converter above the couch (MAME FTW).
the mouse has one button. it fails by default.
-J0N
jmthunderbirdturbo wrote: the mouse has one button. it fails by default. -J0N
Because that's all a mouse needs. 2 buttons is proof the system is a FAIL
carguy123 wrote:jmthunderbirdturbo wrote: the mouse has one button. it fails by default. -J0NBecause that's all a mouse needs. 2 buttons is proof the system is a FAIL
Thats why all of our Macs at school have PC mice attached so that they actually WORK right? The only computer that has a Mac mouse is the one that people are constantly having problems with the mouse not working.
Loved it!
It was all about using my Gateway laptop PC at work on a Novell server, with pointsec security.
They nailed it perfectly! Right down to having to yank the battery out to get the fllipp'n thing to turn off.
You know, I have been on Macs for 21 years now--single-button mouse, too.
David S. Wallens wrote: You know, I have been on Macs for 21 years now--single-button mouse, too.
I use a USB Logitech mouse on my laptop, and a Super Mouse on my MacMini. I got left & right click, plus thumb click, wheel, and wheel click. All the function I need and more.
"I like this handle here. Is so you can use it as a BOAT ANCHOR!"
i saw this for the first time in College and laughed my butt off. I love it. Thanks for bringing it back.
slefain wrote:David S. Wallens wrote: You know, I have been on Macs for 21 years now--single-button mouse, too.I use a USB Logitech mouse on my laptop, and a Super Mouse on my MacMini. I got left & right click, plus thumb click, wheel, and wheel click. All the function I need and more.
You know I had a Super Mouse and didn't like it. It could have been the wireless aspect that bugged me, but either way I went back to the old-school, one-button mouse.
Me too. And I draw with mine. 
jmthunderbirdturbo wrote: the mouse has one button. it fails by default. -J0N
First off, the new Mac mouse has all the buttons you could ever want, and more.
Second off, I built a bridge and got over the whole "OMG WTF it's only got one buttonz" issue about 10 years ago by investing a whopping $20 in a Macally 5-button scrollwheel mouse, which I'm still using.
You know, I kind of miss the old days.........
I thought it was funny but I kinda didn't get it. I agree with teh funky little "cloverleaf" key and all but other than that, mine has only shut down or locked up 1/2 a dozen times at most. So we're looking at having to reboot every 6 months?? I can d'load music, edit a video and surf the net with no degradation with any other program. Can you really say that with a windows machine? I'm sure there will be folks who will tell me they d'load music, hack into the pentagon, split atoms and monitor the international space station while on his Win 95 machine with a 256 processor and 12K of ram but I've owned many windows machines and can't get more than 24 months out of them. Heck, I have a XP machine now that was my HTPC. It lasted a few months before the mobo crapped, then the OS crapped out, then every driver dissapeared, then the PS crapped out. I understand the difference between hardware, software and OS problems but I never had one of these issues with my e-mac.
I do IT and the computers we buy/roll out/support are about 50% Apple/PC (dell).
99% of our Dells make it to their replacement time. ~50% of the Apples die before their replacement time, or die within a year or so (mini/emac/lcd iMac). I also end up warrantying ALOT more Apple machines. Laptops and desktops. Both Dell and Apple's warranty coverage is quite good though. But professors don't like being without their machines.
Just something to think about.
I love MAC's for home use. At work I obviously use PC's, but I have IT to solve problems and I don't need to worry about viruses etc as I don't DL anything and the security is always up to date. But being a luddite I don't know, don't need to know and don't want to know squat about how computers work or operating systems, I just want to turn it on and use it. For that a MAC is the winner for me. If I have any problems I can either go tot he Apple store and see a human who can show me what to do, or call the toll free # and have someone in this country who I can understand without say 'pardon' 'can you repeat that please' 50 times a min.
Having said that I'm just appalled by the reliability of my G4 iBook, spend 30 seconds googling and you'll find a million stories of screens dying, screen surround frames breaking, mother boards dying, HD's crashing, power supply connections not working etc, that list is just the issues I've had personally. Reliability SUCKS. The new Mac books seem much better designed with the solid chassis/case so I hope that's behind them when I come to buy a new lap top soon. But my iBook is now dead and I'm running an old used titanium I picked up on Craig's list as I can't afford a new one yet. Despite that I loath PC's and windows enough that I'll sucker up another $1,400 within the year and plunge into the MAC world again. Yes I am obviously nut's.
What it comes down to I think is the PC/MAC debate is just like buying a car, you can justify either choice 1,000,000 ways, but in the end 99 times out of 100 it's an emotional decision.
I've owned more than a dozen Macs over the last 22 years (people keep giving me their old ones). I've only had 2 fail, and neither of those was less than 8 years old.
DrBoost wrote: I can d'load music, edit a video and surf the net with no degradation with any other program. Can you really say that with a windows machine? I'm sure there will be folks who will tell me they d'load music, hack into the pentagon, split atoms and monitor the international space station while on his Win 95 machine with a 256 processor and 12K of ram but I've owned many windows machines and can't get more than 24 months out of them.
Mmm... yup. I can. Quite consistently. The shortest I've had a PC was a laptop that lasted about 2 1/2 years. The internals still work fine, but the keyboard doesn't work right, and it would need a replacement battery.
I am currently running two machines that I've had for about 3 years now. And I got them as cast-offs from the school I was working at, so they're probably ~5 years old and they get used for gaming. Haven't particularly had any problems with them.
Actually, there was one that died prematurely. It was killed by cat fur. The CPU fan got clogged with cat fur and wouldn't run anymore, so the CPU died.
And the stupidest, most frustrating problem I've ever had on a computer was with a new Mac Mini. I put a CD in... and it wouldn't even register that there was a disk in there. No icon. Nothing. So I can't eject it. Since the computer is convinced there's no disk in the drive, there's nothing for it to eject. There's no paper-clip hole on the front to force eject. There was no way to get that CD out! 45minutes later we scanned deep in the help section, and finally found something that made it force eject.
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