Anyone else install the "November" update? I just did, and I'm really surprised by it. I want to check with others, and make sure it's right and ok.
The start button no longer works via left click. It does nothing. Everyris via right click.
Nothing pulls in from either side of the screen. Not by touch nor by mouse.
All tiling is gone. That whole alternative view is completely removed.
Thr ribbon on the bottom is now empty and seems dead.
This update seems almost Windows XP like.
I've rebooted, no change. Everything seems to be working. Just very stripped down noe. Though it runs slow.
So those of you running the latest update, what are your experiences?
Windows 10 is a berkeleying joke. All of our work PC's on it have crashed or "updated" into garbage modes like this. All of the Win7 PC's are humming along perfectly, and will stay that way. Sorry, I got nothing. When ours crash we have to wipe everything and fresh install.
I'm pretty close to going out and getting an MacBook.
This W10 is very inconsistent in how it runs, and drives me nuts.
My win 10 is up to date. No issues with the start menu, although I can't really remember the last time I used it before I clicked on this thread.
No pull ins. I think I disabled them when I first installed 10, but I honestly can't remember.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
{Deep breath}
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....
{walks away shaking my head}
"110 million people have upgraded..."
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
alfadriver wrote:
I'm pretty close to going out and getting an MacBook.
This W10 is very inconsistent in how it runs, and drives me nuts.
I upgraded a used laptop to Win 10 so I could get away from my MacBook. At 4-years old it's really showing it's age - which wouldn't surprise me if it were a ~$400 Windows box, but for a $2k Mac I'm not exactly thrilled over the experience...
FWIW I've been happy with Win 10 and not experienced any problems, nor has our other family members, or friends/customers who've upgraded.
Brian
MegaDork
1/10/16 12:26 a.m.
Nope. Still running 7 on my laptop. When that dies I'm going Mac.
NOHOME
PowerDork
1/10/16 7:24 a.m.
I just wish there were a way to stop the pop-up window that keeps telling me to upgrade to 10.
From the point of view of someone who wishes to dedicate as little of his life as possible to software, Microsoft products have been a train-wreck ever since Vista came along. Every time Microsoft gets a platform to stabilize, they release a new Mongolian clusterberkeley.
When this machine dies, it wont get replaced with a Windows device.
I just went and purchased a supposedly Win7 fresh laptop.... We'll see what shows up. Certain software I need still hasn't upgraded to 8.....
Or I have to dual boot partition a MacBook....
petegossett wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
I'm pretty close to going out and getting an MacBook.
This W10 is very inconsistent in how it runs, and drives me nuts.
I upgraded a used laptop to Win 10 so I could *get away* from my MacBook. At 4-years old it's really showing it's age - which wouldn't surprise me if it were a ~$400 Windows box, but for a $2k Mac I'm not exactly thrilled over the experience...
FWIW I've been happy with Win 10 and not experienced any problems, nor has our other family members, or friends/customers who've upgraded.
How is it showing age?
The WIN machines do that by getting updates that fill up the hard drive. I had to stop using one machine as it filled the HD when I didn't really use it much. This machine was supposed to be ok with 10, and I did- finding out if the future held a future with a Win computer. At the moment, it appears that my future is with the fruit.
NOHOME
PowerDork
1/10/16 8:56 a.m.
Javelin wrote:
NOHOME wrote:
I just wish there were a way to stop the pop-up window that keeps telling me to upgrade to 10.
There is!
Thanks. I went with the hide notifications option.
The MacBook Pro I bought in 2010 is still chugging along nicely, SWMBO uses it mostly for design work. Great little laptop. I would have bought another, but I wanted something able to play more taxing games while I'm traveling for work, so I recently bought a Dell with an OEM installation of Windows 10. My desktop has been running 7 since I built it in 2011 and I've never had any real complaints, but 10 is driving me up the wall. "Inconsistent" isn't even the beginning. Why is there a redundant "settings" menu in addition to the classic control panel? Why would I want to try and run stripped-down "app" versions of websites I use every day? Why is the font scaling a broken mess? It seems like they tried to unify desktop and tablet operating system features for versatility but ended up with something that's awkward on each. I certainly won't be upgrading my desktop until there's enough DX11 support that my hand is forced.
One weird install/update.
Two days after, it suddenly does a flurry of reboots and all us well.
It never errored or crashed. It was just stripped down and darn unpleasant, with weird problems.
While I'm not happy with how slowly and secretively it did multiple updates and such, I do have to give them credit for never splatting my machine.
Yeah, sticking with Win7 at home, along with OSX 10.7 on the Macbook Pro. I'm still really happy with that laptop and it's something like 6 years old now.
I have both (a Mac Pro running 10.11 and a PC running Win7 and Win10). I must've been pretty lucky, so far Win10 seems to just work, the only annoyance was that I had to go and reset all the privacy settings after the 1511 update.
My main gripe with MacOS is that you have to upgrade to a newer version if you want to keep getting security updates as Apple will only provide updates for the current version and two versions back. Well, at least that's customary right now, Apple has no lifecycle policy they'd admit to so that can change at any give time.
Win10 is nice if you upgraded from Win8.1, if you're still on 7 I'd stay there. But at the end of the day I don't think either system - MacOS or Windows - is so "bad" that you're getting a big improvement from jumping to the other one. I find both infuriating from time to time...
BoxheadTim wrote:
Win10 is nice if you upgraded from Win8.1, if you're still on 7 I'd stay there. But at the end of the day I don't think either system - MacOS or Windows - is so "bad" that you're getting a big improvement from jumping to the other one. I find both infuriating from time to time...
I'm not sure I agree with that. Maybe I need to see some posts from Mac users pointing out that OS upgrades and updates fill or don't fill the HD up to the point that you can't use it. That's what has happened to me- and the cycle basically makes my computers useless- in very short order. So I'm hoping that getting a Mac will prevent that planned breakage of my computer.
Also, I have an issue with a system that is best if you use an old version of it. It's great that Win7 works as well as it does- but with W10 out, it says some very strong info about MS and the computers that sell them. Basically, in 2-3 years when Win11 or 12 comes out, I can expect that my brand new W10 machine will clog up with updates and not work anymore. I've had enough of Windows.
Win7 has been Linux-like in reliability for me, but I'll have to upgrade my gaming PC before the deadline, and all the PCs at the office will have to be upgraded too...guess I'll see for myself how much trouble Win10 causes.
alfa - how small is your hard drive?
I've never had a windows install use a significant portion of my hard drive. And I don't buy large drives.
In reply to ProDarwin:
No idea- I can fit all of my stuff- pictures, songs, documents, etc- on a 250Mb drive- as I use one as a back up. I hope it was at least 2Gb.
I don't work computers hard enough to need a powerful machine. But Windows updates makes me need one. And that's what I don't like.
alfadriver wrote:
I don't work computers hard enough to need a powerful machine. But Windows updates makes me need one. And that's what I don't like.
I think something else may be wrong with your machine. I've put win10 on several old computers without issue. It runs great. Faster than Win 7. If you are struggling with a couple of year old machine, something else is up.
But I share your pain in a way... I don't need a fast phone. But Apple makes me need one. My iPhone4S gets slower with each software update. If I choose not to do the update, I lose app support. And I can't go back and install older versions. It's borderline unusable now and its only 3 years old :(
In reply to ProDarwin:
That's the thing- if there's something with the machine that makes it not compatible with the "upgrade" then it should not have been offered to me.
On the last machine- it was WinXP that filled it up. That was worse than this one.
This isn't the first time upgrades/updates have done harm. So it's the last Win computer I buy new for a while.
I have a win7 and win8.1 laptop, and the desktop is 10. I'm not big on Apple stuff for various reasons, and 10 is headed more in the direction of the locked down Apple way of doing things. That said, I like 10 much more than 8.1, and it has worked flawlessly for me aside from one thing - when it updates, occasionally it automatically uninstalls software, saying that it isn't compatible. No options or anything; it just does it. I'm not okay with automatic uninstalls.
alfadriver wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote:
Win10 is nice if you upgraded from Win8.1, if you're still on 7 I'd stay there. But at the end of the day I don't think either system - MacOS or Windows - is so "bad" that you're getting a big improvement from jumping to the other one. I find both infuriating from time to time...
I'm not sure I agree with that. Maybe I need to see some posts from Mac users pointing out that OS upgrades and updates fill or don't fill the HD up to the point that you can't use it. That's what has happened to me- and the cycle basically makes my computers useless- in very short order. So I'm hoping that getting a Mac will prevent that planned breakage of my computer.
Macs can have other planned breakages - for example, the latest major update (10.10 -> 10.11) breaks a bunch of audio software and so far, there is zero information out there from either Apple or the manufacturer of said software when they'll be able to fix it.
Windows is better at backward compatibility whereas OS X generally is better at getting rid of old junk. I also find that Mac OS software is often better quality than the Windows software, albeit with a tendency to be more expensive.
I'm not trying to discourage you to switch, even if it sounds like I am. I'm just trying to point out it's not all rainbows and unicorn farts in Appleland either. With all that said, I could easily sell my Mac, re-buy the software I have on there for Windows and have a fair amount of money left over, but I still keep both machines.