Colt 1911A. Old habits die hard. This was my side arm for 7 years. Malaysia, Indoneasian and the Republic of the Philipines. (1987-1994) then we called them communist because killing muslims wasn't cool until the Persan Gulf War.
Edit: as afar as zombies go you want something rudundant and srong. I would get a Cricket Bat or an Ax Handle. short of that a lead pipe will do.
Dr. Hess, Jamming like stove pipe jams - not ejecting the spent casing correctly. And yes with the aftermarket (Tapco) stock and mags. We switched ammo and no longer have a problem.
So Taurus is pretty good, eh?... What do I need $540 for? Apparently for a 1911! They have some Kimber 1911s at twice the price. Hell the Panther Arms ARs cost less than the Kimbers.
nato country = nato ammo
.223 (5.56x45) like GRtechguy said and 9mm for the hand gun. Not the best, but one must think ammo availability first.
In a dream world, I'd have to go with a .50 desert eagle or two and some sort of automatic shotgun - neither of which would ever run out of ammo.
Taurus has an reputation for excellent quality and a no BS warranty. I dunno how Smith and Wesson is today, but a few years ago, Taurus made a S&W clone and it was higher quality than what was coming out of S&W. Same with Baretta in the 9mm's. Kimber is also excellent stuff.
The stock wouldn't affect it, but if the ammo fixed the stovepiping, I guess you're OK now. I'd try it with the fixed mag just for S&G's, but that could have been from not powerful enough ammo or maybe a clogged gas system. I've seen problems even with a 20 round Chinese fixed mag in place of the original. I figger that if you can't do it in 10 rounds of 7.62x39, throw in the next clip and try 10 more. I think that if you actually try aiming at what you're shooting at, 10 rounds in a rifle that will shoot 3 MOA should probably do you just fine anyway.
Three guns. .30cal rifle (pick one), 12ga (Binelli M4), pistol .40cal (H&K, Sig, or Glock)
Dr. Hess wrote: All youse guys grabbing handguns, ya'll are missing the point. A handgun is what you grab to fight your way to your rifle.
hence why I want the hi-point carbines.
That socom 16 is sexy...
I like the Marlin 1894 even though I know it's not a true combat ready weapon.
Currently have a Rock Island .45 that I like very much. Heavy as he|| but it feels right for a backup.
Hess, I hear you about 10 shots of 7.62x39. That stuff has some serious penetration. A friend of mine has one for zombie home defense and his famous quote is "Open the door? Why? Hell, shoot through it! Don't even let'em know you're coming." I would wish for a faster reload on the SKS as stripper clips are a bit cumbersome. I'm leery of trying longer of chinese detachable magazines because of the reliability issue. I guess that's why the AK exists.
I'm also curious why no suggestions for the AR-15? Do you guys know something I don't?
Below we see this gentleman is properly equipped to do close-range combat with the undead.
Rifles require aim and have too much velocity for any reasonable use in close quarters... what you need is:
EricM wrote: Edit: as afar as zombies go you want something rudundant and srong. I would get a Cricket Bat or an Ax Handle. short of that a lead pipe will do.
A cricket bat is an excellent choice - especially if you hole up in a pub where swinging a machete isn't practical.
We're talking WTSHTF here, so AR-15's are below AK's and SKS'. I'm not terribably convinced about M1a's long term reliability either. Oh, I like AR-15's OK and I've put thousands of rounds through one, but: when experimenting with reloading non-reloadable 7.62x39 steel case ammo during Clinton 1, I had a problem with primers being knocked out of the pocket when the round was stripped off the mag. This resulted in a primer rattling around and half a charge of powder in the receiver each time it happened. I'd just cycle the AK's action and keep going, not even dumping the gunk out. It never jammed once, despite the receiver having several primers and a lot of powder in it. Show me an AR that will do that and I'll buy it.
Incidentally, the secret to keeping the primers in the pocket is: Red Locktite. Put the cartridge's boolit down, put a drop of red Locktite on the primer, let sit like that for a few days, wipe any excess off. The red will seep down enough to lock it in but not damage the primer (in my experience). Rounds I did like that still shot fine 15 years later.
i have to say it would be the AK, M500 and my 1991A1 .45. Ak has the reach, the Mossburg has the short range and the .45 is your last resort while reloading the other two.
This fully auto shotgun (AA-12) would do nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3WjxsMCZo
I'd grab my Remington 1200 first. 12GA, pistol grip, pump, and the plug is out. I was at a local gunstore today looking at new pistols....really like the Springfield XD line so far. You can never go wrong with a good 1911 either.
I just read an article in SGN on those Springfield XD's. Very interesting, and was highly regarded by a big name in today's gun writing biz, I forget which one. From a place that used to be called "Yugoslavia" where they've been sucessfully killing each other for a couple thousand years and have gotten very good at it.
Where is the fan being hit? Who is causing the fan to be hit? What is the repercussion of stopping the fan hitter with a slug to the aorta?
OUTSIDE of my house? Non Zombie intruders? Righteous kill? Remington 870 12Gga
INSIDE of my house? Zombies? Firing up the Bobcat for an hour? Shorter version of above.
I think if there was ever really a zombie war, this would be my weapon of choice, hands down, without a doubt:
(armored caterpillar D9)
And if that wasn't available I'd fall back to my junkyard toolkit: ball peen hammer, sawzall, and vice grips.
andrave wrote: I think if there was ever really a zombie war, this would be my weapon of choice, hands down, without a doubt:
If this had a snow thrower or log-chipper attachment I'd be all set for whatever comes.
They have a 2 man cabin with a .50 caliber machine gun and the armor has been battle tested to withstand a direct RPG hit to the windshield glass. good enough?
andrave wrote: They have a 2 man cabin with a .50 caliber machine gun and the armor has been battle tested to withstand a direct RPG hit to the windshield glass. good enough?
So you bulldoze while shooting the .50 cal to show everyone you're VERY VERY F'IN SERIOUS ABOUT BULLDOZING!
andrave wrote: They have a 2 man cabin with a .50 caliber machine gun and the armor has been battle tested to withstand a direct RPG hit to the windshield glass. good enough?
One 50 cal? NFW. I need wood-chipper capability for pulverizing a demon hoarde and at least a 20mm Gatling turret for any sort of Shenanigans that might arise.
All this talk of zombies makes me think of this video, greatest Onion video evar...
This is what u need.
CZ SP01 9mm holds 19+1 rounds, 5 inch barrel, all steel, probably one of the most proven actions in the world.
Its what i use.
You can put one in each hand and cut people when you run out of bullets.
A 870 would be good as well though i will stick with my Beretta 391 and a FAL or a G3 for your 308. duties.
Zombies? Where the berkely are they?
EastCoastMojo wrote: A to the MF'n K y'all.
Quoted for truth
Xceler8x wrote: ... because of the reliability issue. I guess that's why the AK exists. I'm also curious why no suggestions for the AR-15? Do you guys know something I don't?
This is a Ford vs. Chevy argument...
AK- takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. Like the Doctor said, they have a reputation for reliability despite abuse. However, they achieve this through much looser tolerances, which means they have much looser shot groups. 3-4 MOA (minute of angle) is probably correct. Also uses a piston blow back system, that keeps gases out of the chamber- not that it would matter with an AK. Also, the 7.63x39 round tends drop quickly, so accuracy falls off markedly after 100-150m, however seems to do a good job of zombie elimination within those ranges.
AR- Tighter tolerances mean a more accurate weapon. It also means it has less tolerance for crud in the action, so it needs to be cleaned periodically, more often than an AK but less often than it's detractors would say. Tighter shot groups, in the 1-2 MOA, zombie elimination with iron sights out to 300m, with magnification out further. Yes, sub-MOA guns are out there, but we are talking typical weapons. NATO weapon in a NATO country. Also typically what the Police carry in case they'll let you borrow rounds in your zombie fight (highly unlikely).
I like and carry an AR, but then I also carry one when I wear a green suit, so I like to train as I fight. Several of the .308 rifles listed above are AR- series, except the M1A, which is something totally different, although based on the old Army M-14.
Think 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke. They both get the job done, they just do it with different style....
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