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John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
11/16/21 1:23 p.m.

Who owns that lot full of trees?  Do you have a fear that will become a house next to you?  

I'm going off the assumptions that you do not own the trees.

It seems really nice to have that divider of trees and small woods there.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/16/21 1:33 p.m.

About the nice side of a fence - my mom got new neighbours a few years back. She lives in a neighborhood with 100 year old houses. They own an art gallery and have a more modern aesthetic. They replaced the wooden fence that divided the properties with solid steel sheets that are intended to rust. The sheets were supported by steel 4x4 "fenceposts". They paid for it all, which could not have been cheap.

Mom was not happy with it. On one of my visits, I built a wooden face for her side - it's attached to the fenceposts using a 4x4 bracket, no modification to the steel at all. The neighbors are fine with it because they can see their rusty steel and Mom loves it because it looks like the original fence that was there for 40 years. Sometimes you've just gotta work with what you have.

As for encroaching, the house next time mine sold last year and got turned into an unregulated flophouse - I mean "AirBnB" - with the owners living 300 miles away. The driveway runs right along the property line and there's a wash on our side. I got tired of instagramming idiots coming over on our property to take pictures with my cars (seriously), walking their dogs in the wash and the like. The last straw was when a landscaper drove down the wash to get access to their property - our environment does not recover quickly, and he took out a bunch of sage and prickly pear cactus by driving over it. I picked up some post and beam fence posts and extended an existing fence all the way to the corner of their driveway, right along the property line. Made it very clear where the line was, which was not where his landscaping pretended it was. I also dropped some big rocks in the wash to make it difficult to drive off the side of their driveway. The next time the owner visited, he did not look happy but that's not my problem. He's renting out my neighborhood and pretending his property was mine. He's not a neighbor, he's an absentee landlord. 

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
11/16/21 4:11 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Here's the great thing. That lot (the wooded, or jungle lot) was for sale when we looked at our house. We looked into buying it, but got distracted with drama surrounding this house (another story if anyone cares). We wanted to buy it just to keep it undeveloped. Well, the neighbor on the other side of that lot (you can JUST see their house at the top of the pic) bought that lot for that very reason, to keep it undeveloped. 
Woo-hoo!  
They cleared just a small part to put a potting shed on it. We won't have neighbors on either side of us, or behind us. Good deal. 

ClemSparks
ClemSparks UltimaDork
11/16/21 5:05 p.m.

It is kind of cool the way yours and the neighbors' house ended up being a "heads and tails" layout.

I'm surprised at the allowable house-to-lot ratio you have there (relative to where I live).  If your houses weren't on multiple lots each (or if each lot had its own house on it), it would be VERY tight, lol.   Just goes to show:  different places, different expectations, different rules.

Of course, your neighbors and the folks who owned your house and the other neighbor house before you thought the lots were too small also, else everyone wouldn't be buying up extra lots ;)

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/16/21 5:19 p.m.
ClemSparks said:

I'm surprised at the allowable house-to-lot ratio you have there (relative to where I live). 

Heh.  Around the corner from my old house, developers bought up a 2 acre lot that had previously been home to a half dozen automotive businesses (tire store, transmission place, parking lot in the middle, that kinda thing) and put 25 houses on it.  These aren't technically townhouses/condos either, there are no shared walls.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks UltimaDork
11/16/21 5:55 p.m.

"Surprised" was the wrong word for me to use in my post.  "Eye opening" would be more appropriate.  Dense development happens...even here.  But a lot of developments here have lots of restrictions (and even the planning codes have rules) keeping things from getting too dense in a lot of instances.  Again...it just goes to show that different places have different rules, expectations, priorities, etc.  

I live in a town of less than 150K people in Missouri.  We've got plenty of land to sprawl onto, lol.

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