foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
7/7/16 1:04 p.m.

My application has been sent in. Maybe I'll see some of you there.

I almost did it last year, but decided not to in the end. I just wasn't sure I was ready. This time, I am.

I do plan to take it easy. I'll probably stick to the main route, no options. I'm planning on starting late, so the various hooligans will be out ahead of me and I can proceed at a much more leisurely pace.

Last year I was really nervous about riding it, which is basically why in the end I chose not to do it. This year, I feel ready. Far more so than I do for the ride on the NY Safety Track this month in fact.

I've no illusions that this is a particularly easy ride, or that I'm bullet proof. But I very much want to get back on the horse for one ride. One, successful, ride.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
7/7/16 1:07 p.m.

That looks awesome and if it were closer to MO, I would be in.

Huckleberry
Huckleberry MegaDork
7/7/16 1:40 p.m.
foxtrapper wrote: Last year I was really nervous about riding it, which is basically why in the end I chose not to do it. This year, I feel ready. Far more so than I do for the ride on the NY Safety Track this month in fact.

Since you are the guy who was riding the Harley bagger through a water-crossing in a post not so long ago you might be the wrong guy to ask but... would you bring a big bike to this? I've only got one bike ('07 R1200GS Adv) that runs at this time and I'm much more comfortable ripping asphalt sideways than I am doing much of anything fast on dirt. I usually get where I'm going but it's not always pretty.

As far as the NYST thing, it is very low key, not intimidating at all. I think Jon intends to use the track as a bigger MSF parking lot so that it more mimics the real world for the skills he is trying to teach to street riders. I think that is part of the reason he asked me to retract my application this year "to make room for more intermediate riders". I think I was practicing things and at speeds that made him uncomfortable given the level of safety we were wearing. I enjoyed myself greatly . He may have been using polite flattery instead of saying "that sort of hooning isn't what this is all about, you should go to a berkeleying track day with that E36 M3".

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
7/7/16 2:07 p.m.

I would not bring a big bike to this Michaux ride. There are a number of videos of this ride from various years on Youtube that show why I say that. There's quite a bit that is tight in those videos. The terrain is also pretty rocky. So I'm going to leave the Harley at home and ride my old Honda XL500 instead.

Yes, there are dirt and gravel roads in Michaux, and I suspect that a good bit of the ride will be on them. But I don't know how much.

My vague and confused memories of the ride from a few years were that it was a lot more demanding than I'd expected. Rather intricate and technical. Lots of things in trees and high brush, with very little on the dirt roads. But, those may be false memories of videos I've seen.

skierd
skierd SuperDork
7/8/16 3:36 a.m.

This was easily one of my favorite rides when I lived in Maryland. A must-do event!

I did ok in 2011 with street tires on my WR250R

Lots of fast flowing single track

But there was also stump fields like this too

Personally, I think you'd be berkeleying miserable on a GS. Do you even have real knobs on it, like at least TKC's? I've seen it on other "hard" dual sports on the east coast but this is one of those events that was almost all dirt bikes with questionable plates. Bring a dirt bike unless you plan to skip all of the options and work a lot harder than reasonable.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
7/8/16 5:38 a.m.

Looks like fun. Maybe life will work out and I'll be able to do this next year. Considering I still don't have a title for my DRZ400, nor do I have a MC license, last rode a motorcycle over 30 years ago and I'm currently 300+ miles from home, I doubt there's any chance I'll be ready for this in 2016. But I'll pass this along to some of my teammates who live in MD and VA.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
7/8/16 6:20 a.m.
Ian F wrote: Looks like fun. Maybe life will work out and I'll be able to do this next year. Considering I still don't have a title for my DRZ400, nor do I have a MC license, last rode a motorcycle over 30 years ago and I'm currently 300+ miles from home, I doubt there's any chance I'll be ready for this in 2016. But I'll pass this along to some of my teammates who live in MD and VA.

Ian, if you haven't ridden a motorcycle in 30 years, you're not going to be ready for this particular ride this year, or probably next year. From the videos I've seen and the comments others have made, it's a demanding ride.

There are other milder adv type rides to start with. There are weekly dirt road rides here, as well the adv rides closer by you at different times of year.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
7/8/16 6:51 p.m.

In reply to foxtrapper:

I won't stubbornly disagree with you as two of my teammates responded who have done the ride and one said he has yet to finish it due to breaking something on the bike or himself.

That said, I am a downhill racer and riding trails that don't look like trails to a normal person is not something I'm foreign to. Some of the courses I race on are literally impossible to walk down in places. Another friend who is also a long time cyclist who got into enduro MX riding at a later age is convinced I'd take to it quickly. Right now, the biggest hurdle I see me having is getting used to using a throttle to "english" the bike rather than my instinctual bicycle skills.

Right now, I still don't have the title to the damn bike... and there's a KTM dealer 5 min from the office up here... and from what I've seen there's a ton of trail riding up here in NH and not having the DRZ is killing me.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
7/8/16 8:42 p.m.

I had forgotten you are a downhill racer. That does make a difference. Ok, maybe you will be ready for next year.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
7/22/16 1:39 p.m.

Huck, this thread is probably worth your reading. Another rider is asking about riding his 1200 there. Almost seems like you asking, but wrong city and state.

Thread

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/9/16 2:13 p.m.

Two more weeks until.

Got the old XL500 out of the shed the other day, for the first time in over a year. Two kicks and it was running. Dang but that bike is reliable.

A little washing and waxing, and it's looking pretty good.

But boy, after the other weekend on the track with the Harley, it feels like a toy.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 SuperDork
8/19/16 7:26 p.m.

In reply to foxtrapper:

Like this one?

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/19/16 9:21 p.m.
paranoid_android74 wrote: In reply to foxtrapper: Like this one?

Yep! BIG front brake,eh?

Mine is a little older, so bigger front wheel (23") and a smaller metal gas tank.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/20/16 9:09 a.m.

Loaded up and ready!

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/22/16 3:26 p.m.

So how did you do? Must have been pretty soggy out there yesterday.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 SuperDork
8/22/16 4:41 p.m.

Enquiring minds want to know...

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/23/16 5:04 a.m.

I'm alive and well!

I stayed on the main course, mostly. Just one deviation onto an alternate C+/B- loop, and that was by accident.

I rode all morning, until the bike broke down just before lunch. Got a ride into the staging area from another rider. Got the truck and picked up the bike.

Weather was rainy, which did keep the dust down, as many were saying. It also made the rocks slippery. But, the ground wasn't particularly muddy or soupy. Though I did discover that deep wet pine needles are remarkably slick.

All it all, it was a good ride. Hard, without being overwhelming. My brake pedal is smashed flat, I had to pry my shift lever out of the case, and the belly pan needs some repair work. Some log jumping on the main route, and slammed down hard on one stump hidden under the loam in a work around where a tree had crashed down on the route just a few hours earlier.

I was nervous, make no mistake about that. And little guardian angels or God were playing their rolls or roll. Very early on the bike shot out from under me in some loose stuff, very much like what happened when I crashed I think. Instead of crashing, I just dabbed down and stayed standing, brought the bike back under control, and continued on. A few more events like this, as well some challenging things like riding along a wet log through some muck. It let me figure out that indeed, I can do this, even if it's not going to be particularly easy.

A generic picture of some of the trail stuff on the main route. There were tighter and steeper and more rocky areas. This is simply one I stopped in and took a picture. It's moderately steep downhill here, though it doesn't look it. It was a tail dragger decent as I recall. If not here, there were several others that were tail draggers.

And here's a shot of the "big bike friendly" alternative route I accidentally got onto. This was so tight that I had to lean the bike back and forth to thread the handlebars through the trees. Two little cliffs to jump off of between trees. And then the mountain laurel, like you see here in this picture. This stuff was so thick that the bike is standing up on its own in the stuff.

As I said, right before lunch, about half way through, the bike broke down. Spluttered to a halt like it was out of gas. It wasn't. Something is blocking gas flow into the carburetor. As it was raining again, and I was getting tired, I chose that as the excuse to call it quits. I'd done what I wanted, successfully made the ride.

Huckleberry, would I care to take a big bike through this? No. That said, there was a big 1200 BMW that had been going through it all just fine. As well several other big bikes and big guys.

The folk that put on this event were very nice. They remembered me from a few years back. It was surprising to hear my name as I was checking in, because they recognized my face. By no means was I a crash celebrity or such. But, I was definitely known. Because I had failed so spectacularly the last time, my entry check was returned to me and I was allowed to ride for free. Very sweet of them.

The route was very clearly marked, as well the alternative loops. A roll chart is basically necessary, but almost just to clue you in as to when to look for the 6"x10" white placards with the mile stenciled on them. Really, to get off course, you'd have to work hard at it. The alternative loops were very well marked with a zillion yellow arrows to follow.

The lunch was very good. I'm sure being hungry helps one say that. But, I still think it was pretty durn good. Plenty of food and ice cream, and porta pots even. It was a very well orchestrated ride.

Will I do it again? Probably not. Really, I'm just not a dual sport guy for around here. Nor am I a rock crawler with my 4x4. It's tiring and not very scenic. Mostly you're just riding through trees without any particularly pretty views. It's just exercise. If I lived in Colorado, that would be different.

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/23/16 11:06 a.m.

Very cool! I need to get a dual sport one of these days...

Do they post a map of the route anywhere?

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
8/24/16 5:24 a.m.
Furious_E wrote: Very cool! I need to get a dual sport one of these days... Do they post a map of the route anywhere?

They do not. Largely I suspect because the route is worked out every year on different trails and such with the DNR agents at the state forest. For a good portion of the main route, and all the options, you are riding over ground you are not allowed to ride on at any other time of the year.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 SuperDork
8/24/16 10:15 a.m.

Great write up, thank you! I recall seeing the flyer posted here and immediately thought it looked like fun. (Says the guy that's never driven a bike).

I too am in the needs a dual sport camp. And learn how to ride it of course. Details, details...

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