Would you rather have a Lamborghini-powered Viper or a Viper-powered Lamborghini?

Colin
By Colin Wood
May 11, 2023 | Dodge, Lamborghini, Dodge Viper, Viper, Engine swap, v10, Discussion, Lamborghini Gallardo, Gallardo

Photography Courtesy Stellantis (Viper), Lamborghini (Gallardo)

On the surface, the Lamborghini Gallardo and the Dodge Viper might not seem like they have a lot in common, but look closer and you’ll see two of the fastest V10-powered cars of the early 2000s–both even available with a six-speed manual transmission to boot. (Of course, that’s overlooking the fact that the Viper V10 has some Lamborghini DNA in it.)

Setting reality to the side for a moment, what if you could swap the V10s?

Would you rather have a Viper powered by the V10 from the Gallardo or a Gallardo powered by the V10 from the Viper?

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Comments
SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
5/11/23 12:09 p.m.

Lambo powered Viper. 
 

I think the Viper is a better looking car.

(The truth is that I probably wouldn't want either engine.  I like reliability, and neither Dodge nor Lamborghini are known for that)

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
5/11/23 12:13 p.m.

Been around both and owned a few they are fine the way they are. The Gallardo would be an amazing car if they had just put the DCT from the R8 in it earlier the single clutch sucks and the manuals are hard to find and the shifter is not as nice as you would think for the price. \\

Blasphemy I know but the Viper would have survived if they had offered a DCT from the factory on the Gen V cars next to the manual and most people would have been faster on the track for it. 

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
5/11/23 12:22 p.m.

Just from the standpoint of availability of maintenance parts, I would go for Viper power in the Lambo, if choosing one or the other. Bodging body panels is less critical than bodging engine parts.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
5/11/23 12:32 p.m.

In reply to wearymicrobe :

A Viper with a DCT would have been brutal in the best way possible.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/11/23 1:02 p.m.

I dunno that I'd really want either, actually.

How about an S85 V10 in an E46? :)

 

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
5/11/23 1:16 p.m.

The Viper V10 wasnt really engineered by Lamborghini.  Dodge was part owner of Lamborghini at the time and used the aluminum casting process that Lamborghini had familiarity with and Lamborghini helped them with the conversion of a cast iron truck engine to cast aluminum car engine, but all the Viperness is still Dodge, even the dumb "8+2" firing order.  Thats right, a Viper doesnt fire ever 72 degrees of the crank like a standard V10.  Because the engine is essentially a 360 with 2 cylinders tacked on, 8 cylinders fire at 90 degrees to each other and the last 2 fire at 54 degrees to each other.  

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
5/11/23 2:10 p.m.
Colin Wood said:

In reply to wearymicrobe :

A Viper with a DCT would have been brutal in the best way possible.

Personally I think a DCT Gen V ACR would have taken the ring record and kept it some back when they were released and it would have put the car into more peoples hands. The side impact rules / airbag rules killed the car eventually but the sales numbers would have been high enough I think to justify the engineering costs. I wanted a Gen V bad but it was a half a generation improvement over the IV from a track/fun perspective. 

I would love to see a Gen VI of the viper as a final sendoff with active aero and a ECU that is a bit more open to modification but that is not going to happen. But right now you can simply buy a EVO Hurrican and get a similar experiance and have more headroom on boost and that is what most people are doing. 

 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/11/23 2:38 p.m.

I'd rather have a Miata powered Lotus Elan.

calteg
calteg SuperDork
5/11/23 2:57 p.m.

Viper powered Lambo

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/11/23 3:27 p.m.

Send me both for a while and then I'll tell you.

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