Has Nissan finally made a worthy Z-car with the Z Nismo?

J.G.
By J.G. Pasterjak
Jan 3, 2025 | Nissan, FIRM, Florida International Rally & Motorsport Park, Nissan Z NISMO | Posted in Features | From the Feb. 2025 issue | Never miss an article

Photography by Chris Tropea

Dropping Christmas bonuses in favor of a jelly-of-the-month club subscription may have looked good to the board, but it didn’t quite fly with the rest of the company.

See also Nissan’s Z Nismo. 

On paper, the Nismo version of Nissan’s newest Z looks like it should compete against some of the top performance sports cars in its class, like the Supra and …

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Comments
Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
1/3/25 9:26 a.m.

I'm not sure I would pull the trigger now, but maybe some depreciation would make the new Z a little more attractive–at least in my eyes.

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/25 10:34 a.m.

If I wanted to shave 2 seconds from my Elantra N, I could step up to a Civic Type R for an additional $10K. To shave 3 seconds, I can spend double for a Dark Horse, a car that is 1000% more desirable than the Nismo.  To shave 4 seconds, I can buy a Supra for $5k less than that. The Z makes no sense. 

CrashDummy
CrashDummy Reader
1/3/25 11:41 a.m.

"like so many things that look good on paper, in the harsh light of the real world, Nissan may still have some work to do"

I feel like this sums up all things Z-car for the last 20(?)-ish years now. The Nismo versions have been cosplaying track ready cars for a long time now and their price point is out of touch with their actual capabilities. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
1/3/25 12:41 p.m.

Every time I read these articles I am reminded of how incredibly cheap I am; 65K I don't think so.

The reality is most people buying one won't notice the steering/vague turn in. I recall several years back driving an M4 on track and the steering was horrible; the owner a reasonably good driver really didn't notice.

Thankfully GRM tests these things; so those of who do notice won't find out after we buy the car.

 

BA5
BA5 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/3/25 12:54 p.m.

Does it feel like a few mods could really unlock its potential?  Like could it punch above its weight in the Sport or Tuner TT category?

Also: you have 'T3' twice in your track map.  I think one of them is suppose to be 'T8'.

Hacker_Pschorr
Hacker_Pschorr New Reader
1/3/25 1:20 p.m.

3,700lbs and an automatic transmission is not what I would buy a Nismo Z for.  Especially for the asking price.

I really want to love these cars. 

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
1/3/25 1:30 p.m.
Hacker_Pschorr said:

I really want to love these cars. 

I'm with you - that orange retro one is cool but sticker starts at $59,999?

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
1/3/25 4:13 p.m.

It was slightly faster than the new BMW M2 at VIR per Car and Driver if I remember right. That's something at least.

Sad thing is, it costs more too.

StanO87
StanO87 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/3/25 9:41 p.m.

Given the slow sales of the Z it's easy to find certain models with no additional dealer markup.  Same maybe or soon for the NISMO.  Not sure what aspects of Z can be altered via alignment.   Although it can't make up for lost HP we know some cars gain more from a good alignment than others.  I would venture to guess the Z may be more affordable to maintain once out of warranty compared to BMW/Supra.   Still hope for additional refinement and performance from Z Honda.

 

Snrub
Snrub Dork
1/4/25 2:00 p.m.

I see a lot of them on auto trader too. I don't see many Supras, which cost more. The GR86 isn't a direct competition, but they too seem be very scarce on the ground. Zs look to be say 25% more expensive than a BRZ, or similar money to a Mustang GT. I could see Z becoming more popular.

Edit: It sounds like the way to go is buy the base Z and hit the aftermarket to improve the deficits in suspension tires, coolers, etc.

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